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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Feb 14

      I don't feel, on principle, opposed to the idea that women are less intelligent than men. It seems unlikely this is true, but I don't think the question is bad to ask. The real issue is why are you so afraid of the possibility that someone is an IQ point or two lower than you?

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    2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Feb 14

      If how much you respect and value people hinges so much on small differences in intelligence, then it would make sense that you are unable to entertain possibilities that associate, even super generally and with high variance, different IQ with different groups.

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    3. Liminal Warmth  ❤‏ @liminal_warmth Feb 14
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      To steelman this, I think the problem is that such a difference is then used to justify a bunch of more stupid attitudes and problems that arise when you give people a reason to claim superior intelligence over someone else when it still doesn't really matter in reality

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Feb 14
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      But that's not a good reason to not come to true conclusions. There's lots of true things that people use in stupid arguments, that just means we need to combat the stupid arguments, it doesn't mean we need to avoid thinking about the true thing!

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        1. Liminal Warmth  ❤‏ @liminal_warmth Feb 14
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          Hmm I guess an interesting question to ask here might be "in what ways would it be damaging to be correct and open about this and in what ways would it help"... ...assuming you valued non-harm and utility over truth as a value I don't really have a strong opinion here tho

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        1. Arrogation Toast‏ @lordcataplanga Feb 14
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          It is a reason to keep the conclusions private and only share with people who won't be hurt by it. Learning things in the wrong order can harm people. Like when you teach people about cognitive biases and they use it to win arguments instead of to find the correct thing to argue.

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        1. Neil‏ @neilgaynor Feb 14
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @liminal_warmth

          Truth for truth’s sake is good, but research resources are limited like everything else. Is it an effective use of resources to more precisely measure IQ gaps given what we already know? Seems no, especially since we care most about individuals anyway.

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        1. David L‏ @DLydbyrd Feb 15
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @liminal_warmth

          Yes, absolutely, totally down with that part. But the point is that the fear of misinterpretation (which I agree is a bad reason) is the reason these people oppose it and jumping to the conclusion that they must themselves tie value to IQ is a non sequitur

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        1. Chris Canal‏ @chriscanal4 Feb 15
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          I respect you so much for saying this on Twitter.

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