True, and a lot of people forget the role that culture plays in shaping desire (unless you somehow think that Ancient Greeks were genetically unusual), but the “it’s a choice” narrative is so closely entwined with “and it’s sinful” that that line of inquiry is rather radioactive.
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Also, the current state of the research seems to be that sexual orientation is not chosen. It’s mostly not genetic, but it’s set early in development and not really mutable past that point. Rationalists have tried to make themselves bi and almost universally failed.
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Agree completely, but not totally weird to care because the immutability of sexual orientation is part of the rationale for majority decision in Obergefell https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf …pic.twitter.com/JwORCFjB3M
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Agree it should be accepted regardless, but the idea that people choose sexuality isn't problematic because progressives think it reflects badly, it's problematic because they know *others* think it reflects badly ("harmful") but might better accept it were it not a choice.
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Well yes, but what matters most is what's true. It might be pragmatically preferable if sexuality is innate, but we can't base morality on a lie or an uncertainty.
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Extinction, no.......freedomless authoritarianism, yes
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I think the issue is that trads / reactionaries / religious people use the choice argument to push for “conversion” therapy, since it’s a choice.
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Good to be suspicious of language hysteria, but when a potential sc justice uses "preference" instead of orientation" there's a legal implication. "Orientation" implies an immutable characteristic, people who have the characteristic deserving equal protection under the law.
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What the hell are you talking about? In the literal definition of the word, orientation is far from an immutable characteristic. Things are reoriented all the time. In fact it's usually easier to (literally) reorient yourself then change preferences.
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