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You can act as though you know reality, but you must hold it very lightly, and be prepared to drop what you think you know as soon as new information comes along. Be curious, be flexible, be wary of ideas that make you feel comfortably in control of your knowledge of others 5/
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People who don't own their experience, who put their emotions and frames onto you, make me feel uncomfortable. It comes out in subtle little ways, the whiff of non-ownership, and I get kinda triggered when it happen. Aand I think this is basically my deal with astrology/magic. 6/
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Not all people who enjoy astrology-and-co. trigger me, but the majority do. But this is a terrible trend in spirituality to figure out a frame for an experience and then *use it on the world, including you*. They are *not* curious about other explanations for the sense of 7/
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pattern matching, they use their energy reading and astrology and tarot or whatever to understand you, they create a spiritual reality with 'rules' and 'things' that could conceivably be understood and dissected but there's *no desire to do this*. 8/
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When I'm around these people I feel uncomfortable at how much their spiritual frames feel like they leak onto me, inform their view of me, without them ever actually trying to get to know me. This can happen *really* indirectly, in ways that are nearly invisible. 9/
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I feel very similarly to the way I do with my religious mother, where I know she believes that I'm going to hell, that's just part of her worldview, and she might not talk about it but it leaks into her perception of me, her hellbound daughter, it'll always be between us. 10/
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I was patiently reading along, waiting for you to realize this. Projecting your own trauma onto other people who use astrology or whatever to organize their reality, is an example of the sort of 'leakage' you're describing.
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my point is that your own mother thinking you'll be tortured for eternity is traumatic and harmful. you have my compassion, I can't imagine what that's like. projecting that pain onto someone who wants to relate to you on the basis of planets is not owning it.
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No, this is not what 'not owning' it is; I used my mom as an extreme example that anybody could notice, but there's lots of other examples I could mention. I'm not projecting this, you assumed I was.
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that's possible. clearly I don't think so, or I wouldn't have said anything. you lead with the word 'triggering', which is a response to trauma. did you not mean it? other people think astrology is bullshit but aren't 'triggered' by it.
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