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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Sep 2020

      I assumed that systemic oppression had caused poverty which led to increased crime rates in black US populations. But @RCAFDM wrote a fantastic piece I'm just now seeing in which they find this is not the case; it seems to be fatherlessness. 1/ https://randomcriticalanalysis.com/2015/11/16/racial-differences-in-homicide-rates-are-poorly-explained-by-economics/ …

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    2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Sep 2020

      When controlling for poverty, black people still have higher crime rates - but this is not really the case if you control for *single motherhood*; as in, poor black communities with lots of fathers don't have more crime. Cool - if this is true, this seems useful! But- 2/

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    3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Sep 2020

      Why is there such high fatherlessness? Black people tend to cheat more, which is probably a piece to this puzzle, but it only kicks the can farther down the road - *why* do they cheat more? When and how did this disparity start? 3/ https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america …

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    4. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Sep 2020

      Black people are more religious https://pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/racial-and-ethnic-composition/ … and more socially conservative https://pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/ … which I would have guessed predicts greater monogamy and 'nuclear family', but seems not to be the case. How long has this been going on? 4/

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Sep 2020

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure#Theories … This has some theories: *African culture emphasizes extended networks, not fatherhood *Something something welfare? *Incarceration? But why didn't this create fatherlessness/cheating/broken families for white people in similar situations?

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        1. alth0u  🤸‏ @alth0u 14 Sep 2020
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          I wonder if there's a big difference between slave descended and immigrants for fatherlessness I wonder if some of it is a product of slavery forcibly separating fathers

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        1. disgruntled_chode‏ @disgruntledcho1 14 Sep 2020
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          Part of the experience of the slave trade was a near-total erasure of the shared heritage and historical memories from the enslaved people's homelands (by design), so I'm not sure that comparisons to the culture of African peoples will be instructive here. Interesting topic tho

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        2. Peter Larson‏ @peterlarson233 14 Sep 2020
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          @BretWeinstein and @HeatherEHeying have talked about this a bit, could be that higher incarceration rates lead to men not having to commit to a family as much since there are a lot of available women in the population, less need to settle down with a family

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        3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Sep 2020
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          Right, but I'm a little unclear on original causation here; as in, why didn't this cycle happen to high crime white communities? I'm under the impression that there isn't significant enough racial bias in the justice system to be the full explanation.

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        2. Jonas‏ @raumgreifend 14 Sep 2020
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          I would guess that soft cultural/social factors which are hard to measure play a big role and that the best indirect statistical evidence one might get for that would be to look at crime, incarceration, poverty and education of the parent and esp. (grand-)grandparent generation

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        3. Jonas‏ @raumgreifend 14 Sep 2020
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          The Theory being: abuse, crime, poverty etc. (caused by systemic oppression) leave marks in the culture of the affected group (cheating) and its individuals which in turn still are visible generations (2-5) later and compound with hard factors to lead to higher crime rates.

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        1. Steven Gussman‏ @schwinn3 14 Sep 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          Good questions. Welfare is not a bad idea--men can leave women and children to sew their seed without worrying whether they'll survive (and womem will be less worried about him leaving). Fearlessness has increased in whites over the same period. Why not as much? Not sure.

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        1. Chris Espley  🌋 🇸🇻‏ @ChrisEspley1 14 Sep 2020
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          Bret Weinstein’s most recent Ep on Joe Rogan podcast speaks about this. His main suggestion is incarceration rates.

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        1. ½man ½pizza‏ @rawjaat 14 Sep 2020
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          Probably didn't affect white people as much because at minimum education has always been better in white neighborhoods, and the more educated you are, the less likely you are to commit crimes.

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        1. Joe Born‏ @JosephHBorn 14 Sep 2020
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          Allow me to suggest reading Thomas Sowell's "Black Rednecks and White Liberals," which traces cultural roots and examines causality.

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