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Idk how we're so sensitive to sexual consent as a culture but seem to completely lack the concept of economic consent

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Aug 27, 2020

There is a looting in downtown Minneapolis every single day. Downtown is, in fact, a monument to looting. It doesn’t look like broken glass and missing mannequins. It looks like US Bank Stadium & the Wells Fargo Center & the high rises & city hall.

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@Aella_Girl

To clarify - the very important distinction between looting and businesses is that one operates on consent of the customers, the other does not. But it's like people aren't even aware that the difference in consent is important here??

6:02 PM · Aug 30, 2020

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Aug 30, 2020

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I don't see how most people affected meaningfully consented to e.g. the 2008 bailout, which - combined with an enforced taxation regime and a fiat currency - actually transferred quite a bit of wealth to the "winners," in a way that was ultimately backed by state violence.

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Oh we don't meaningfully live in a free economic world to begin with, thanks to regulations

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If you want *everything* to be government by consent you end up being an ancap. I've learned "reasonable" people know consent needs to be violated in some ways (although you're not supposed to call it that).

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I do think consent needs to be violated in some ways but I think it's a knob that can be turned much much farther down from where it is now

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When basic logic seems to be missing in a conversation, it's probably not the real conversation. It's probably just an excuse for something decided for other reasons that people would prefer not to name.

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Abstract general concepts like "consent" are only to be applied to *my* object-level issues. Treating the general and abstract as real and important across the board, is white supremacy.

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Right-wingers already made this joke with "border integrity." Ironically, "political consent" seems more like a Libertarian focus, like the NAP

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Theft and property damage are still crimes. But people are more important than property

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Both Socialism/Capitalism are 0-sum, 1 requires money extraction the other voter extraction, at the loss to the customer/citizen on promise of future value/return. A relationship tho is suppose to be at the immediate gain/benefit to both, collaborative win+win, non-0-sum.

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I think a lot of people don't feel like there *is* a difference. Their minds are such that relationships with reciprocal favor-exchange feel like The Way production and allocation should be organized. The transactional models feels both alien and superfluous to them.