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I don't know a lot about this field - can I get other opinions on this thread? It seems pretty reasonable and optimistic, tho I'm default skeptical of anybody who uses the phrase 'big pharma'. (also h/t

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James Todaro, MD

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Aug 10, 2020

1/ There is growing evidence that T-cell immunity allows populations to reach herd immunity once only 10-20% are infected with SARS-CoV-2. This would explain why a highly transmissible virus in densely populated areas peaked at 10-20% infected regardless of lockdowns or masks.

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5:41 AM · Aug 25, 2020

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I was sceptical of 'big pharma' big time in the past. After the story around hcq i'm less so. We still don't know if it works or not (and now possible won't learn ever) but the fuckery around it (especially the lancet article) can be plausibly explained by "big pharma conspiracy"

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i do think 'big pharma' is very bad - it's mostly people who allude to it as a malevolent entity that's doing a conspiracy thing makes me more cautious, since that tends to be highly correlated with them also saying inaccurate things

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I can recommend

as a possible source for info. If she can't speak to it, she will know who can.

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to be fair I don't think those things are disqualifications; the hydroxychlorquine thing might be but that seems unclear

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Basic idea of unobserved T-cell immunity: likely (see e.g. blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archi ) Conspiracy parts: Bunk 20% figure: Seems doubtful

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It seems to me if a cold could give me immunity to COVID-19 then it should also give me immunity to colds, yes? And yet I get colds from time to time – by his logic, shouldn’t the first one have prevented future colds?

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From the original author of the research -

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Prof. Shane Crotty

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Aug 12, 2020

1/ There are various tweets misinterpreting COVID-19 “pre-existing immunity” and making dangerous claims about herd immunity. Since many of those claims refer to our scientific papers, we will reiterate the facts. @SetteLab @ljiresearch @ScienceMagazine @CellCellPress

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