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Aella
@Aella_Girl
I've always had an undercurrent of "we just need to try to understand each other" with people I disagree with. Forever. But I'm starting to feel myself losing it with the woke infection. I'm watching myself shut down and curl up and go "actually no just go away." 1/
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
It's surreal and I'm not sure how I feel about it. I think I'm starting to view them as an enemy as opposed to simply misguided. I feel a little grief over this, but this is coming after a *lot* of charitably-attempted interactions with these people. I feel exhausted and done.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
I know this isn't fair. I know that I've always wanted people to try to interact charitably with me. And to be fair I do think I would be happy to have conversations with seemingly Infected people if they were charitable! But I'm absolutely biased now upon just subtle signaling.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
Like, I've noticed I've mostly stopped following people with BLM in their bios - not because I disagree with BLM, but because it's been associated with this terrifying and brutal infection that's claiming the minds of so many of my friends. I hate it.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
I'm also afraid that me saying this will be used to justify meanness to the infected. I don't want that - I know this is a hard, nuanced line to walk. I don't think we should go easily into a war mindset at *all*. It shouldn't be easy to think war is justified. It should be hard.
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@Aella_Girl
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@Shubham20799454
I do think minimum wage and the war against drugs are built on laws that disproportionately effect african americans. I don't know if I'd classify that as systemic racism but it does have disproportionate effects based on race.
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Peter Wang
@pwang
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@Aella_Girl
You and many others. The evil you are sensing and responding to is not new: it has been a recurring visitor. There is a particular strain that emerges when left-wing revolutions mature into ideological purity. Ionesco and Orwell wrote about it. Mao harnessed it. Nothing new.
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Peter Wang
@pwang
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@Aella_Girl
This go-around is dangerous b/c social media amplification gives it much more memetic & cultural impact. Those of us who see the hollowness of it do need to stand up and fight for liberal principles, humanism, empathy. The cynical reductionism will burn itself out eventually.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
Grey tribe? At least in regards to like... social issues. I'm generally pretty centrist-libertarian otherwise.
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larrynoon
@Larry_Noon
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@Aella_Girl
I don't believe in any kind of "justified" hatred. There is no such thing. If you absolutely CAN'T be friends with someone you disagree with politically, doesn't that just make you a shit person? I enjoy having friends who see through all lenses. Perspective.
Trocar
@TrocarRogue
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@Aella_Girl
I struggle with the exact same issue. The extremes on both sides cling to their political ideologies like religious dogma - if you aren't marching in lockstep with them, then you are treated as an enemy. It is rare to have rational discussions with differing viewpoints anymore.
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@BeeCeeKae
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@Aella_Girl
I’ve found that hardly anyone listens to each other’s ideological beliefs. They don’t want discussion, agreement, understanding– they just talk past each other without any realistic goals in mind.
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Sheepdog Frank
@navymig
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@Aella_Girl
I don't understand. If you just embrace every point of the 'most tolerant' left woke movement 100% without question, they wouldn't need to harass your opinions, would they? Bend the knee, bend the knee... It is exhausting to see it. I understand where you are coming from.