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The list of demands posted by CHAZ are ridiculous and obviously written by people who are bad at thinking. Alternatively, here's a list of proposed revisions by someone who is extremely good at thinking:

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Eliezer Yudkowsky

@ESYudkowsky

Jun 14, 2020

So I wrote up this 23-point agenda for a Comprehensive Reboot of Law Enforcement. #RebootThePolice. 1. Completely disentangle punition from revenue, including outlawing forfeiture, by requiring all punitive revenues to be refunded to tax-filers yearly... medium.com/@yudkowsky/a-c

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10:44 PM · Jun 14, 2020

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I was with him til point 2 - the union busting point police departments need to be internally democratized and demilitarized - unionization is a big part of that if anything, police departments need stronger unions, with the right to strike and less ties with management

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There are some good proposals there, some I think sound good on paper and are unworkable, others will need some clarifications and protections added before they can be implemented.

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Point 4 would disqualify almost all women from police work - what else can you do if an unarmed 250lb man starts punching you? Maybe this is a worthwhile tradeoff for lower police shootings...

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I favor the reforms listed, and they would be a lot better than nothing, but they only obliquely address the fact that in many places, police are seen *and see themselves* as an occupying force, not a source of assistance. Until that is address directly, the problems will remain

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As an opening gambit I think it’s fine to demand everything, even the ridiculous, if for no other reason than to have room to negotiate.

Azura, daedric prince

@_azura85_

Jun 14, 2020

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@Aella_Girl

Apparently not because he doesn't realize that things like civilian oversight already exist and are ignored, quotas are outlawed in several states and are ignored, and that private police barely exist in the US and chiefly are not the cause of the current problems.

Manny stuck on Left Coast

@manway613

Jun 14, 2020

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How about not caving to any of the “demands” and instead just watch — popcorn in hand — while they find out that it’s not so easy to create a workable town much less a nation. I think it will be loads of fun.

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Take their guns away until we can get this all figured out.

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I have high expectations for Eliezer and felt pretty let down by this. There are some good ideas in there but overall I think it displays a conspicuous lack of empathy for the actual difficulties of policing in America.