1/ When I was a Christian, we believed that we were persecuted. Any time there was a high profile killing of a Christian, we heard about it. Any bad thing that happened to Christians was fed through a narrative that the world was out to get us because they hated us.
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7/ This doesn't surprise me; a group's lived experiences don't necessarily mean much (unless we want to believe evangelical Christians are persecuted in the US, or ignore data about the wage gap). It's real easy to construct a wide variety of opinions on the same experience.
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8/ But moreso, I'm concerned that a more important discussion around police brutality and training is being coopted by a statistically unsupported narrative around racism. I don't mean that racism isn't real or that its lasting effects aren't part of the background here
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9/but the huge, uncritical acceptance of unjustified racial bias in the use of police force is absolutely eerie to me. I feel like I'm in crazytown that nobody's having serious discussions about the data here. Shouldn't the data be extremely important to our attitudes about this?
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https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877?ijkey=ec58d89f56588f14b3926acbf67611009f21039b&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha … "...we did not find anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparity." https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/ … "There seems to be little or no racial bias in arrests for serious violent crime, police shootings in most jurisdictions, prosecutions, or convictions."
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To be completely fair, the stuff here is still nuanced! There's racial bias found some places, in some levels, depending on where you look. But even including this, it's very far from the widespread police racism that you'd think exists from looking on social media.
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Strong data to the contrary: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4634878/ …
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sorry to drop a whole thread and then not read through a possible counter study but my brain is fading; before I go read through that, does it control for all the important stuff that's mentioned in the studies i linked?
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It doesn’t seem fair to adjust for crime. Because laws are enforced more on minorities, so obviously they will have higher crime levels.
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There are studies of victimization where the victims of crimes are asked who victimized them. This does not suffer from the problem of differential enforcement of laws. So you can adjust for crime.
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