1/ When I was a Christian, we believed that we were persecuted. Any time there was a high profile killing of a Christian, we heard about it. Any bad thing that happened to Christians was fed through a narrative that the world was out to get us because they hated us.
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4/ Tangent: The US has been really shitty to black people. Even ignoring slavery - we've actively burned down prosperous black cities, regulated them into poverty, and also done a lot of lynching. There's a reason black people are on average poorer, and it's largely the white US.
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5/ Poverty breeds crime, and areas of higher crime get higher police violence, pretty proportionally. Since black people make up more of the poor population, they experience more police brutality. This is an indirect, lasting effect of the systemic racism of the past.
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6/ But when adjusted for poverty and crime and stuff, as far as I can tell (open to debate! lots of studies, nuanced!), it appears there's actually no significant disparity in police violence based on race. But the cultural narrative right now is the complete opposite.
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7/ This doesn't surprise me; a group's lived experiences don't necessarily mean much (unless we want to believe evangelical Christians are persecuted in the US, or ignore data about the wage gap). It's real easy to construct a wide variety of opinions on the same experience.
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8/ But moreso, I'm concerned that a more important discussion around police brutality and training is being coopted by a statistically unsupported narrative around racism. I don't mean that racism isn't real or that its lasting effects aren't part of the background here
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9/but the huge, uncritical acceptance of unjustified racial bias in the use of police force is absolutely eerie to me. I feel like I'm in crazytown that nobody's having serious discussions about the data here. Shouldn't the data be extremely important to our attitudes about this?
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https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877?ijkey=ec58d89f56588f14b3926acbf67611009f21039b&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha … "...we did not find anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparity." https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/ … "There seems to be little or no racial bias in arrests for serious violent crime, police shootings in most jurisdictions, prosecutions, or convictions."
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To be completely fair, the stuff here is still nuanced! There's racial bias found some places, in some levels, depending on where you look. But even including this, it's very far from the widespread police racism that you'd think exists from looking on social media.
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