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It's obviously a thing to refer to, if you have money you can say it's not real all you want but at the end of the day you're still gonna be able to afford food and shelter. I think this is sort of my confusion with nonbinary stuff. They say gender isn't real, is a social-

construct. Maybe they've been traumatized by it, want to exist outside of it. This sounds fine, legitimate, valid, I get it. But gender, like money, affects you in real, concrete ways, regardless of your relationship to it.

Saying you're not a woman feels like insisting you don't have money. Like, I understand you believe that, and I understand your relationship to money is different than mine, but at the end of the day the practical effects from this giant social illusion *still exists*.

To me, I process gender as something close to the "practical effects from this giant social illusion." I think I process nonbinary identities as "expression of distaste for, trauma from, or feeling trapped by this social illusion." Both of these categories seem valid to me.

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in general I'm pretty sympathetic to the idea that standard gendered categorizations and scripts are unfair and coercive in damaging and illigitimate ways that can end up being essentially culturally supported gaslighting of gnc and nb people who's identities and agency aren't...

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supported by the standard "male" and "female" social boxes. And saying "though their is information to be known based on my ASAB and gendered presentation, the things people often expect to be true of women/men cannot be expected from me - some biological things (eg weird...

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sexually dimorphic attributes) and some social.

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So i'm confused by this - I don't know what 'female box' is supposed to do. Like, I am not very feminine. I have a pretty masculine brain, androgynous interests. I feel like 'boy' is a much better match for my internal world. But I look like a girl and this shapes a lot.

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