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I wonder how much of my difficulty understanding nonbinary identities comes from having been in sex work for sooo long, where the genitals you have are incredibly important to how you're treated and the role you play.
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In this context, if an afab said she wasn't a woman, id be like, that's nice but that means nothing. People are still going to pay you because of the way you look. Saying you're not a woman has no impact on all the things that are important about being a woman
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Maybe in a world where there's not really different treatment of people based on the way they look, nonbinary identities make more intuitive sense?
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It's interesting that you're wondering that because my perception is that non binary people tend to come from a perception of oppression, therefore a stronger enforcement of gender roles, whether actual or perceived.
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This is true - I'm thinking of one nonbinary person I know who I believe is nonbinary out of a reaction to intense gender trauma, where their gender roles were used as a weapon against them and now they're nonbinary in an attempt to deal with that pain.
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maybe identities as a concept is really a non-starter. humans are human individuals. i think if we can accept them as they are, and see them for what they are it all makes perfect sense.. the whole exercise seems concept-related. understandable, because power... but nonetheless
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My socialization was mostly on email list servers and MUDs (online text-based role-playing games). Gender wasn't really a thing unless you made it one. On the lists gender was basically ignored. In the MUDs I played whatever gender I felt like being at the time - or none at all.
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