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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      Much as I'm not *actually* hurting the religous people; I'm not punching them, removing their rights, burning their houses down, I'm also not *actually* hurting the autistic people. The pain they feel, while real and valid, comes out of *their* perspective on the world.

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    2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      In this sense, the people who are hurt are hurt because they believe they should be hurt, not because I am actually doing anything hurtful. So... I know they're telling me to stop, and that they're hurt. But I'm not going to stop. I think they should update their worldview.

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    3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      Much as religious people would probably experience greater freedom and less pain if they left their religion, I also think autistic people would experience greater freedom and less pain if they left their framework that leads to them getting hurt by me expressing myself.

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    4. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      Unfortunately - that’s not how it works. We can’t just suddenly not feel insulted by people debating our existence

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    5. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @astraia_esprit

      Right, I agree! I would like to be able to lay out enough information such that we can learn to not feel insulted by these debates, though. It seems like a super useful skill.

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    6. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      I think you’re missing my point there - doesn’t debating about whether or not we should exist feel strange to you? I think most people would feel odd thinking about others having an opinion on their existence in the world..

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    7. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
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      Not at all? I can see how a reasonable person, who views autism as a really painful thing that makes life hard and creates suffering, might think that it would be a loving and kind thing to do to stop future autism from existing. I saw some autistic people express this sentiment.

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    8. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      And I also will add that the frustrating part for a lot of us is that this kind of notion about autism being some horrible awful thing that’s no good - is exactly the misconceptions alot of advocates are trying to fight against.

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    9. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @astraia_esprit

      But I don't wanna go into this discussion *assuming* there's a right answer - this is one of my complaints and thus parallels to religion. I agree that they believe it's a misconception - but it's still a discussion we can have - especially because some autistic people disagree.

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    10. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      This is an argument I"ve been seeing pop up in response to me on twitter lately - "Don't even ask that question, X group views the discussion as harmful." And then members of X group who disagree with them are completely ignored. The conclusion is assumed as a starting condition.

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      This also is circling around a larger point or value I hold - that suppressing discussion, or limiting voices who are allowed into a discussion, as a general rule, is a dangerous and exclusionary thing to do.

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        2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

          For example, I strongly believe men should be allowed into the abortion debate. It doesn't affect them, but that *doesn't matter* - their opinions on how a good world runs are valid no matter what. Ofc, I can view their opinions as less important to me because they are men.

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        3. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          abortion is a bit different as pregnancy can only occur with 2 ppl so I would def agree that men should have a say. But I think someone who is not autistic offering an opinion to the life of an autistic person - is like a white person saying they have an opinion about being black

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        1. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          And again! Yes! I totally agree! the problem is that cis/abled voices so often drown us out, and make it harder for the community to handle discrepancies within itself because we aren’t being listened to anyway and have to constantly deflect abled people’s opinions on our lives

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