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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
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      So when I hear people on twitter saying "stop you're hurting us", how am I supposed to tell this apart from the arguments the religious people made to try to control me?

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    2. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      At the very base of this - Please don’t think those of us offering criticisms are trying to control you - we aren’t - we are hoping you’ll hear us and consider what we are saying. Ultimately religious identity is a choice, and being autistic or having a genetic condition is not.

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    3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
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      Right, but my point here is not whether or not it's a choice, my point is that people are telling me that harm is being done, but I consider that harm to be a necessary aspect of my self expression. I've gone public in other spheres about my leaving the faith and similarly got-

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    4. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      -a huge amount of emails from christians trying to tell me that I was wrong, that I needed to listen to them, that I needed to stop saying these things. And like... no. I believe what I believe and I'm going to keep expressing my ideas on the world and my experiences of it.

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    5. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
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      Much as I'm not *actually* hurting the religous people; I'm not punching them, removing their rights, burning their houses down, I'm also not *actually* hurting the autistic people. The pain they feel, while real and valid, comes out of *their* perspective on the world.

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    6. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      In this sense, the people who are hurt are hurt because they believe they should be hurt, not because I am actually doing anything hurtful. So... I know they're telling me to stop, and that they're hurt. But I'm not going to stop. I think they should update their worldview.

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    7. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

      Much as religious people would probably experience greater freedom and less pain if they left their religion, I also think autistic people would experience greater freedom and less pain if they left their framework that leads to them getting hurt by me expressing myself.

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    8. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      Unfortunately - that’s not how it works. We can’t just suddenly not feel insulted by people debating our existence

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    9. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @astraia_esprit

      Right, I agree! I would like to be able to lay out enough information such that we can learn to not feel insulted by these debates, though. It seems like a super useful skill.

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    10. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      I think you’re missing my point there - doesn’t debating about whether or not we should exist feel strange to you? I think most people would feel odd thinking about others having an opinion on their existence in the world..

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
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      Not at all? I can see how a reasonable person, who views autism as a really painful thing that makes life hard and creates suffering, might think that it would be a loving and kind thing to do to stop future autism from existing. I saw some autistic people express this sentiment.

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        2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @astraia_esprit

          And like, maybe you disagree, even disagree really strongly (I'm in the mostly disagree boat myself), but I can easily see how someone with really good intentions can make a good argument for why this should be the case. And boom, that's the discussion we're having.

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        3. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          I think if that was your intent was to have a discussion and such - you’ve got to be willing to accept that people might be upset by the thought of if they should exist or not, and esp when it’s a choice given to random non autistic ppl or people who don’t have these conditions🤷‍♀️

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        1. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          I don’t think that could happen in a way that didn’t give fuel to Autism Parents fuel for their shitty fires.... If that’s the debate - why should non autistic ppl get a say? It is hard -but I think it’s more because we live in society that doesn’t care about us - than who we are

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        2. Astraia: art nudist 🏺‏ @astraia_esprit 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          And I also will add that the frustrating part for a lot of us is that this kind of notion about autism being some horrible awful thing that’s no good - is exactly the misconceptions alot of advocates are trying to fight against.

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        3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 15 Apr 2020
          Replying to @astraia_esprit

          But I don't wanna go into this discussion *assuming* there's a right answer - this is one of my complaints and thus parallels to religion. I agree that they believe it's a misconception - but it's still a discussion we can have - especially because some autistic people disagree.

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