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So who exactly decides what a 'desirable' trait is/isn't Disabled peoples lives matter just as much as anyones. Are you suggesting it's better if disabled people arent born/don't exist? We matter. We are not less.

Natasha Krywald-Tompkins BCAv

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It's incredibly ableist to think that disabled peoples lives should be considered any less and that those who are disabled or who carry certain genes shouldn't reproduce (whether this is forced or by choice) to prevent disabled children being born. Disabled people aren't bad.

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Yeah, I agree. But the 'good' parts about this I'm thinking of mostly pop up at extremes - like, my mom has a genetic heart defect that killed two of her brothers, and she might just randomly die because of it. If I could erase that defect from existence I absolutely would.

Natasha Krywald-Tompkins BCAv

@natasha_krywald

Apr 13, 2020

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@Aella_Girl

She could randomly die (as could anyone at any point) but she has lived. Would you rather she was not born at all? She clearly had children as she is your mum, and a quality of life, and achieved. We need to stop assuming there is a 'perfection' we need to achieve to have life.

Natasha Krywald-Tompkins BCAv

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If we had this eugenics, your mother could have been forcibly sterilsed and never had you. In the 'ideal eugenics world' your mother wouldn't have ever even existed herself because she doesn't meet this 'perfect standard' I don't see how you could justify that?

Aella

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@natasha_krywald

Oh I absolutely don't agree with forced sterilization. I am not advocating that at *all*. In my ideal world, if I could magically just eliminate the genes for the disease my mom has from all future newly created humans, I would.

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Natasha Krywald-Tompkins BCAv

@natasha_krywald

Apr 13, 2020

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@Aella_Girl

But why? Everyone will die. Just because some people may die sooner, it doesnt make their life worth less. It doesn't make them worth less. If this happened before your mum existed, you wouldn't exist now. Does your life not matter? Does hers? And where is 'the line'