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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 13 Apr 2020

      And this intense knee-jerk reaction I'm seeing about "EUGENICS=BAD" just... like... ok yes i understand that it has been used for very bad things but that does not inherently make it bad. You seem to be ok with people aborting down syndrome fetuses, so at least be consistent.

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        1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 13 Apr 2020

          OK UPDATE: It seems like a lot of commentators are pointing out that eugenics implies state control or overarching force. I did not have this as an association with the word. If eugenics *necessarily* implies the use of force then yeah it seems way worse.

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        2. Tailcalled‏ @tailcalled 13 Apr 2020
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          Down syndrome is associated with a strong reduction in fertility, so aborting fetuses with down syndrome isn't eugenics.

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        3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 13 Apr 2020
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          oh. I'm going by "the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarded as desirable" as the definition, which aborting down syndrome fetuses seems to fall into for me.

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        2. Ramez Naam‏Verified account @ramez 13 Apr 2020
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          I think there's a deep confusion about "eugenics". The horror show is really state use of force to coerce people into eugenics. When individuals & families choose on their own, I really don't see nearly the same problem. But family choice is often lumped in with state coercion.

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        3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 13 Apr 2020
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          Does eugenics imply state control? I always interpreted the term as sort of neutral to that.

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        2. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan 13 Apr 2020
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          my pet theory, which i also thought was everyone else's pet theory so it's interesting to see that it isn't, is that eugenics = hitler and after the death of god hitler is the closest thing we have to satan; they fulfill mythological roles and need to be understood mythologically

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        3. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan 13 Apr 2020
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          related:https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1188536313516920832?s=20 …

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          this helped clarify a dynamic for me. in the same way there's a "god-shaped hole," there are "X-shaped holes" for X a bunch of deep, fundamental concepts like sin, and any sufficiently mature ideology eventually adapts to fill these holes one way or the other https://t.co/k5hg64eKrP 
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        2. plancpills.org abortionfunds.org‏ @gdtrble 13 Apr 2020
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          NOPE.

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        2. Psychocosm, but my friends call me Matt‏ @Buddh_ish 13 Apr 2020
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          Part of the reaction is cause assigning value to genotypes easily slides into assigning value to the humans who have them. Some humans would be seen as intrinsically better because they have the good genotype. This static, essentialist view of human goodness is shitty

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        3. Psychocosm, but my friends call me Matt‏ @Buddh_ish 13 Apr 2020
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          Besides the obvious historical associations, once you assign different value to different human lives based on biological factors, it's almost inevitable that that will slide into racism or some other kind of dehumanization of those without the good genes.

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