but i sort of don't accept this. Like, I'm open to answers! But the problem is here there seem to be zero answers that are core to identity itself and not attached to signalling. If there can't be an answer to what gender identity feels like then I can't accept it as a concept.
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I'm down with women having a wide variety of presentations. But I have no idea what 'feel like a woman' means, still. How do they know the thing they feel like is 'woman'? There must be a concept of what a woman is for them to know that they feel like one.
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But okay - this still doesn't address my question. If I "feel like a skiier", I have a concrete image of what a skiier is. I can describe it to you. People who feel like a woman have to have an idea of what a woman is otherwise the concept makes zero sense!
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I agree they're not the same, but the principle still holds - to feel like a woman, there has to be a sense that matches [you] with [concept]. What is the concept?
I don't feel like a woman. I don't feel like anything. I don't have any inherent sense of gender.
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I can describe love (which also i think is a fundamentally incomplete concept as it's used) and also hunger though.
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....no it won't be completely different? It might be slightly different, but people write books and poems about love that are really popular because other people understand them. If you asked me what love feels like I could say a ton of things that likely most others would share.
but gender identity isn't like that - whenever i get to the point in the conversation where i ask "what does it feel like to be a woman", people *do not* answer this. I have literally not gotten a single answer that is directly about this and not referring to stereotypes.
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so like, what am I supposed to think? I don't necessarily want to believe that this gender identity framework thing is a bad one, but after having people being unable to give coherent answers I just can't accept it.
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