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I'm *extremely* confused when I get to this question when trying to understand the enby/trans/pronoun framework. This is close to the core of why none of this makes sense and why I'm using my own system.

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I suppose it is difficult to convey that to someone who has no sense of their own gender identity. It's... difficult to explain. I can't really say why I feel like a man, for example. I just do. Regarding engaging with you, I'm going to be honest: your thread angered me. -

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Particularly the 6th part. It came off extremely insulting. But your replies to people who were actually talking to you were respectful and seemed willing to try to learn, and teaching is always preferable to just yelling.

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Thanks! I don't mean to be insulting. I'm probably on the autism spectrum and things that are very straightforward to me sometimes make people really angry. I just try to be consistently straightforward in as many interactions as I can be and hope they understand.

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It can be difficult sometimes to put yourself in someone else's shoes, even for neurotypicals. If I may make a suggestion, I'd recommend this - consider your gender framework for yourself, but let others' gender frameworks be for them. Everyone is different, after all.

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It doesn't really work like that - I can't force myself to use their framework on them when I'm still so deeply confused about certain questions around that framework (e.g., what does it mean to 'feel like a woman'). Like I said tho, I'm willing to do what they want!

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Fair enough. Just thought I'd throw it out there. The most important thing is treating people with respect, which means using the names and pronouns they want to be called by. It is admittedly difficult to change your thinking - it's a long process for anyone, and something to-

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work at.

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Sure. I don't want to go into this assuming that any one view must be correct - I want my view to end up on the one that seems most consistent, not one that I think I 'should' end up on. And if it's the genderprogressive one then so be it. If it's not, then that's ok too.