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In my ideal world, they would say "Hey, my pronouns are they/them", and then I'd say "Nice to meet you! I process your gender as your birth sex and don't view you as nonbinary personally, but I'm happy to use your pronouns if that makes you more comfortable." (6/6)

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this implies that you can always tell what birth sex people are. might be better to rephrase as "I'm too uncomfortable with a non-binary model of gender, so I'll insist on forcing you into whatever binary model I believe you conform most closely too"

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If I can't tell, then I process them as 'neither gender', which I assume is closest to nonbinary. If they're a passing trans person, then I process them as closest to their preferred gender, and this doesn't change when I find out their sex.

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sure. this whole thread is so odd—yes, gender is a societal construct, but instead of exploring how different societies construct it, or why it's constructed like this, you seem to be unequivocally buying in to the current model. do you usually do that?

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I can't not. It occurs subconsciously for me at the level of identifier; I can't force myself to see a tree as a house no matter how good your argument is. I am happy to consciously accept everything else I can around this though!

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If they pass as a guy then I would love for us to get to a point where I can be honest that they read to me as male, yes.

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You're allowed to view me however you want, and I'm not going to be mad at you for viewing me in a way I don't view myself. I will fight for the freedom for you to be honest to your own perception of me, even if that perception is that I'm an idiot.

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So this becomes a different argument then - it's not about my view, it's about you worrying about the way other people would react to my view. That's an entirely separate discussion. I personally have always vocally advocated for trans rights.