When movies show a traditional gender roles world (like, historically or culturally), and then the women rise up and Do Feminism, I just don't buy it. I was raised in a super traditional gender roles world and I didn't see a single woman around me Doing Feminism.
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Like, not even whispers in woman-only tea parties. The closest you'd get was a woman going "oh he cheated on you? That's actually biblical grounds for divorce you know".
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Women did not believe they were chafing under the oppression of men, there was no sense of being enslaved. They all were participatory, unchallenging. Sometimes it sucked, but they'd shrug and be like, "Well, we're women, this is what it's like, what did you expect?
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So when movies portray some spirited young girl from a peroid piece community going "hey! Actually girls can do all this too!" I just see her as a puppet for the outside world which is living out its fantasy of injecting Feminism into cultures they can't access directly
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But me, having lived in a culture where our pastor's daughter was still at home at 22 because she wasn't allowed to leave home without the authority of a man over her (so had to wait till marriage), finds this alienating and unrelatable. Media does NOT know what it's like.
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This is why I'm so relieved by traditional worlds featuring strong women characters who don't Do Feminism - women who obviously are hurt by their gender role but figure out incredible steps *inside* the system to get what they want, instead of being Woman Power Puppet #33
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Media like that makes me feel less alone and my experiences more understood. And, maybe more importantly, it's still accessible to the woman still in those highly traditional communities, who don't even have a section of their understanding of reality for Doing Feminism at all.
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To be fair, i feel the same people criticizing mythical past progressivism should also be demanding unfamiliar super-progressivism in sci-fi. Look how dated a lot of old sci-fi seems wrt modern culture. Star trek tried skirts on men, but it didn't take.
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oh man i am strong pro this but it wouldn't sell. "Current values" are what sell - you've gotta shove them into anything to make it commercially viable.
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What’s the origin of modern feminism, then? A male plot to take advantage of “liberated” women in the sexual marketplace? A capitalist plot to sell women products? There must be some reason women eventually Did Feminism
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Definitely, but it was much more incremental. Women who wanted the right to vote also had ideas on womanhood that we'd consider very outdated today. They also operated from inside the existing framework.
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