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"In all cases, two adults should be able to make any agreement or action between them, as long as they are both of sound mind, fully informed, and clearly consenting."

Strong agree
51%
Slight agree
26.9%
Slight disagree
12%
Strong disagree
10%

3,736 votesFinal results

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To clarify: this applies to agreements *between them*; as in they can't agree to go involve a third party nonconsensually, such as robbing a gas station.

6:10 PM · Mar 8, 2020

QC (4/10 Substack posts)

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impossible to define the boundary of what constitutes involving a third party nonconsensually! having a kid? infecting each other with coronavirus?

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Yeah yeah yeeaaaahhhh

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Giulio Giacomo Cantone

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It does not exist a demarcation between involvment or not of a third part. This is why such general statements can t be juridicial doctrine. Freedom must be defined in negative.

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Problem: since we have laws, any interaction between two people automatically involves a significant part of the society. For example, you quoted min wages: they only exist because ownership and money exist, which are agreements between a whole nation and more.

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Still goes with Sound mind

Bruno Vitorio Santos

@brunovitsantos

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Meant to vote 'strong disagree', clicked 'strong agree' instead.

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Given the butterfly effect, how do you non-involve third parties? Alternatively, what degree of involvement do you mean?

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What about third party enforcement, like in a contract?

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whew.