I suspect most systemic oppression is a myth. But it's very commonly used as an important concept in America, and I wanna make sure I'm not missing anything - can someone steelman systemic oppression for me - what it means exactly, and if that definition is supported by data?
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To clarify my position more: I do agree in some cities, explicit racism of those in power do have a noticeable impact on individuals living in that city.
Also I am interested in current examples of oppression, not historical explanations.
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Also to clarify further, after seeing responses, I'm especially interested in what you mean when you say systemic oppression. Being very clear the sort of thing you're referring to is really helpful
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While this is not conclusive, I do agree this study is still suggestive of systemic oppression in police violence in at least some areas.
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It’s a very complex thing. Is it impossible to run in shallow water which has sharp rocks beneath? No.
But given the same expended effort you likely won’t move as efficiently as some one on land.
COULD YOU? Sure. But you can’t expect the general results to reflect the outliers
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Right; some people have it easier than others. I think I question the predictability of standard privilege narratives; they sometimes remind me of sexism (you're x because you're a girl) and like, in general that statistic is right but shoving it on individuals is worse
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Your obsession with quantitative data & dismissal of qualitative data is an excellent example of systemic oppression bc you are dismissing alternative epistemologies in favor of those preferred by white academics. Transgenerational wealth accumulation is a good starting point.
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Do you mean systemic (i.e. widespread and pervasive) or systematic (i.e. written into the rules)?
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I actually don't know; if people have been using them as two different terms I've been accidentally processing them as the same term
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