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I'm pretty anti-socialist, but if you remove the use of force from socialism then... actually I love it. Assuming a world where you don't coerce anybody or violate their negative rights, then yeah. Let's have fuckin communism baby that sounds wonderful.

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Aella

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@hypernoetic

Most self-identifed socialists I've talked to definitely support the use of force, for example via wealth redistribution

5:51 AM · Feb 16, 2020

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what? weird.

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I get this thought: that tax is forced and therefore immoral - but the flip side is the force used to protect private property. Why should the principle of people owning things be protected by force - but not the principle of providing for a more equitable society?

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Pretty much everyone except hardcore anarcho-pacifists support the use of force in some circumstances. & using your definition of force, I can't think of a single person I've ever met who wouldn't support it's use in some circumstances

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Yeah, this is where authoritarianism gets confused with liberalism and libertarianism and even conservatism. Folks decide that the only way to get to an ideal is through harm/threats. The real deal happens naturally, when everyone is free, and not being denied their needs.

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"For example"? Blithely conflating a challenge to existing power structures with violence begs the core question: how is power in society to be distributed?

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So all taxes are a “use of force”???