4/When tripsitting people who have fast loops, you can experiment with what helps them. A few times I've had to literally sit on top of people. I was worried it might be making their trip worse, but their loop was so fast they forgot what was happening before they could be upset.
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5/Try to have patience with their loops. If they're asking "where am I?" answer them, over and over and over again. If they seem to respond well to an assurance, then make that assurance over and over again. Try varying your tone, because sometimes they can still register that-
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6/something weird is happening if you're saying exactly the same thing in exactly the same way two hundred times in a row. With fast loops, your goal as a tripsitter is to maintain, not to connect. You absolutely cannot connect or communicate with these people beyond-
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7/the extreme, immediate basics. Don't worry too much about what you're doing; they aren't in tune with you. Make sure they don't hit their head, be a stable presence that responds immediately to things they need, and try to anticipate their needs (e.g., put a blanket on them).
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Seriously what kind of people do you tripsit? This totally doesn't align for me at all. I'm kinda worried the loops are because they can't let go and break out due to an overly salient misattunement with the other presence.
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I've tripsat... idk, 50-60 people of all sorts. I've tried to predict how people will respond to acid based on all sorts of things (how chill they seem, how smart they are, their age) and nothing seems to correspond.
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Damn that's a lot! But not trying to be snarky, but have you tried just... Feeling them out? Trying to get on their wave length? Maybe with a minimal dose yourself?
The kind of communication where the normal conceptual structures and their rigidity predominate, can unsettle.
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oh man yeah. Sometimes I was on acid myself. Many of these trips took place during a period where I was dosing heavily on average once a week. I wrote a guide if you wanna see if you jive with my philosophy:
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Thanks that's interesting to read! I think most resonates, but I think loops are a tricky one. I personally feel like overly cautious redirections, or feeding that loop by digging into what's upsetting them, can sometimes be the wrong approach.
I think there, they need energy -
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Basically pushing them out of this loopy "well", or "valley", towards new planes of exploration.
I noticed a positive and open attitude, minimally connected to where you're getting them away from, helps. I sometimes just give them new ideas or things to play with or explore.
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I agree with you strongly that this is a good thing to do, but also think that this stops being feasible at doses past a certain intensity. I've tripsat people who literally could not hear anything I was saying and didn't know I was there.
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Damn yeah it's mostly shamanic magic at that point if you do figure it out in that situation 😅 never had to tripsit anyone on that intensity (mostly have guided new people). But I feel like anyone doing high doses should be experienced enough to not get 'too stuck' (hours?! 😱)
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