Because you're ascribing *morality* to your beliefs; you're focusing on the depravity of the opposition and the holiness of your own tribe. In principle, you're no better than the religious, those who go to war, and those who justified slavery
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you are utterly failing to understand that someone's brain and experience can be constructed in such a way that the opposing policies actually seem like a good, loving, helpful thing for humanity that satisfies thier deepest values. Your politics has destroyed your compassion.
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I'm not ascribing corrupt morality to anybody who fails to be compassionate; I'm just equating them to the people they hate.
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‘You are the same as those who justified slavery' *is* you condemning them (I fucking hope!!!)
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I'm saying that the methods these people are using do not, in principle, differentiate them from people who fell into other horrific belief systems, and that we should have beliefs built on principles that would actually prevent us from the other things we judge.
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For example, when I was religious I realized I needed to apply a type of reasoning to my own religion that would evict me from my religion if my religion was wrong, if I were to expect other people to leave their religions because their religions were wrong.
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What are any real world examples of people actually doing this?
I may think a rich libertarian who doesn't want to pay any tax is morally corrupt, and condemn them.
Maybe they genuinely believe that it's more moral, maybe it's just a convenient excuse, but like...
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How is that the same?
They don't think poor people should receive healthcare if they can't afford it and I think... They should be condemned and not given a choice.
How have I 'done the same thing I'm accusing them of doing'?
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?? It's a different value system. If you have a poor person who needs a wound stitched, is it justified to point a gun at a nearby doctor and force them to stitch the wound? This question balances your value of helping others vs. freedom and agency.
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The people who are "anti poor people healthcare" aren't actually against poor people healthcare on principle; they're against it *when it trades off against other important things they value*, and that you probably also value too, just *less*.
Sure! But not all answers are created equal!
If they put more value on being able to buy a few upgrades on their Tesla vs someone dying - then that's something to be figured out!
Just saying 'oh well he thinks taxation is theft and freedom is king so his morality is fine...
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