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"I do makeup for me, as expression, not for anyone else" is the biggest load of crock I've ever heard. Isn't it a little weird that everyone who does makeup 'for themselves' always aims for the same goal - making eyes look bigger, skin more youthful, lips fuller?

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because ~~I~~ like the look. I'm pretty sure a lot of doods consider my makeup on the extreme side but guess what, don't care. I like it

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Yes but *why* do you like the look? I like the look of my face when I wear makeup but if I look a little deeper it becomes obvious that I like it because I know it changes other people's responses to me in the way I want.

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It doesn't take statistics to know how signalling works. Humans have been doing this for like, all of recorded history; it's baked into our cultural norms.

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I think I'm pro defining the problem away? I think we'd be served better if we got rid of the 'altruism' concept and instead used stuff like 'how prosocial are your selfish motivations' or something

10:07 PM · Jan 8, 2020

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Interesting thread. Does the core issue here reside in your initial Tweet? Should we weigh in on whether it's "good" or "bad" for women to make their eyes look bigger and their faces more youthful? Because if that's what they're doing, is that what we should talk about?