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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Dec 2019

      the last time I had to block this many people was when the pro-life crowd came streaming in accusing me of being a brutal baby murderer. Can I just make the pro-life and radical trans people fight each other

      58 replies 4 retweets 163 likes
    2. Quinnception‏ @quinnception 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      I mean...we do. Constantly. The Venn diagram overlap of "trans people" and "anti-abortion" is vanishingly small. I'd hope you'd help us in a situation like that instead of sitting back and watching, yes? Not just defending abortion, but actively siding with and defending us?

      1 reply 0 retweets 52 likes
    3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @quinnception

      I think I'm disappointed that the trans community is as vicious and cruel as the pro-life was. Like... I expected better. I am very pro-trans, whereas I'm not pro-life at all, so I sort of just... anticipated more kindness?

      29 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. Quinnception‏ @quinnception 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      I mean, I get it, and I know that you're getting quite a bit of backlash, but many people have and are going to interpret your words as very hurtful. We've been told our whole lives that we're "lesser," and so this especially stings.

      2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    5. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @quinnception

      I've been extremely clear in a huge amount of this discussion that I'm pro trans, that the vast majority of trans people aren't pretending, that trans lives are very hard, but people are just ignoring what I'm saying and acting like I hate trans people, wtf.

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    6. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @quinnception

      Like if what I'm saying is hurtful, okay let's discuss that. But people are saying I'm coming from a perspective that I'm not coming from, I'm not going to apologize for believing something I don't believe.

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Quinnception‏ @quinnception 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      But people don't want to be hurt and then discuss why that hurt them. It is very hard to have a rational conversation about why what one did is hurtful immediately after being hurt.

      2 replies 1 retweet 20 likes
    8. Quinnception‏ @quinnception 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @quinnception @Aella_Girl

      I've been seriously hurt by this too, but I'm trying to stay calm enough to explain what's going on. I'm not asking you to be sorry for being anti-trans. I'm just asking that you trust us, for now, that this hurt a lot and that we find it both completely untrue and painful.

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    9. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @quinnception

      I'm willing to accept that this was hurtful. I'm also interested in being able to communicate, even if this requires rearranging my language. I would also like that people engage with my actual beliefs, not a false boogyman about them.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Quinnception‏ @quinnception 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      If I may suggest, then, deleting the original thread may be the best place to start, because as long as it's up, it can and will be interpreted in a way that may not jibe with your actual beliefs.

      1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Dec 2019
      Replying to @quinnception

      I explained my actual beliefs inside the thread over and over again. I also don't believe that censoring myself in order to avoid causing pain to others is automatically correct. I'd like to work to reduce pain I cause to others without sacrificing my own expression.

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        2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @quinnception

          I also want to say I feel very grateful to you for engaging kindly, even if it's hard for you and even despite the hurt you feel. I feel a lot of respect for you in that.

          2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
        3. Mustard of your doom‏ @windlashed 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @quinnception

          I feel fundamentally it's important to initially treat things people say as if it has the best possible meaning it could and let the "offender" prove you wrong. The question could understandably be seen as accusatory, but the best meaning of it wasn't.

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        2. Quinnception‏ @quinnception 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          If you don't believe in censoring yourself once you've hurt people and you've been told that, I don't know what else to say. Other people won't censor themselves either, and to expect them to read everything you've written after you've hurt them is...hopeful, to say the least.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Quinnception‏ @quinnception 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @quinnception @Aella_Girl

          I think that I'm just about at the limit of what I can say without allowing my emotions through, so I'll wish you the best and truly hope that this becomes a moment of self-reflection rather than knee-jerk defensiveness. Best

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        1. Eternal Glitch‏ @spectrelshift 14 Dec 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @quinnception

          I guess what people are reacting to is that suggesting some trans people are transitioning out of fascination rather than necessity & are not 'actually' trans is hurtful coz it's a slippery slope & many transpeople have had their identity disbelieved on just such grounds.

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