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I absolutely think a lot (most? nearly all?) trans people are trans because of default brain wiring or something, but I wonder what percentage are MtF cause they felt like they could never be a successful man, and because there's a clear community/path to acceptance for trans ppl

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Aella

@Aella_Girl

Dec 13, 2019

Not that trans people have automatic community, especially in certain areas of the world, but that there is some visible and clear narrative around being a successful, accepted trans person that might appear to be more easily achievable than being a successful man, for some.

Aella

@Aella_Girl

Dec 13, 2019

*especially* when it comes to men with more feminine interests, in more traditional communities where they might get derided for it.

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@jedrek

Dec 13, 2019

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Just to get this clear, you're theorizing that trans women transition because it's less stigmatizing than being a man with feminine interests?

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In some cases, I think this is a possibility yes. This would have to be cases where there's no clear reward to being a man (espec. sexually), where they feel very little sympathy for their gendered difficulties, and wants to feel community and pride and sympathy for who they are.

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I think I'm allergic to anything absolutist. I wouldn't say "no" cases. Maybe it's extremely, extremely rare, but I'd bet all the money I own that you could at least locate 1 circumstance in all of human history where a community stigmatized a trans woman less than a cis man.

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I feel like I'm fighting against some sort of strong "this can definitely not be the case", here. Like, I want to have a less defensive conversation that still maintains a great deal of compassion. Absolutism I usually interpret as the person being very defensive.

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I dislike the idea that people can or can't talk about things. I invite you to talk about cis-ness, and cis people to talk about trans - and people of any group to speculate about any other group. I refuse to shut anyone up on the basis of who they are.

1:37 AM · Dec 15, 2019

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Aella—long time, 1st time here—I get what you're saying & used to think along those lines, too. But one day I realized for us, it's an interesting debate topic. To them, it's us playing Devil's Advocate w/ their humanity. I read your tweets thinking, "What's the point of this?"

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Thanks! Most of the reaction I'm getting to this is pretty aggressive, and treating me as some sort of idiot, or evil, which is really lowering my opinion of this community. I'm absolutely open to having conversations with people who don't think I'm a piece of shit.

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