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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 25 Nov 2019

      My political/economic philosophy priors: 1. No rule about political/economic systems is completely accurate or universal 2. In general, emergent phenomenon from low-level agents is better than top-down rules 3. Culture has huge impact, and often determines the success of a system

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    2. Roko ( 🐍,  🐍)‏ @RokoMijic 25 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      The problem with (2) is that emergent phenomena are often *horrible* nash equilibria. Consider, for example, the phenomenon of rape. It's clearly an emergent phenomenon because of how evolution works. But it's horrible, everyone would be better off if it didn't exist.

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 25 Nov 2019
      Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK

      As with rule 1; no rule is perfect, and I agree that going with emergent phenomenon sometimes results in bad things (though overall, less bad than top-down planning). I do think the rape example is pretty oversimplified though.

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        2. Roko ( 🐍,  🐍)‏ @RokoMijic 25 Nov 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          Rape, cancer, malaria (parasites in general), cheating, organised crime, war, female genital mutilation, slavery .... Emergent phenomena in groups of agents are generically awful because of how game theory works.

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        3. Roko ( 🐍,  🐍)‏ @RokoMijic 25 Nov 2019
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          (And if you believe otherwise you have a very serious mistake in your worldview)

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        2. Martin Harry Turpin‏ @MartinHarry_T 25 Nov 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @RokoMijicUK

          I think the reply here is missing an implied point that you are referring to hypothetical top down vs emergent phenomena that are aimed towards the same end. I.e., free markets vs planned economies. The rape example lacks a top down competitor aimed towards the same goal.

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        3. Roko ( 🐍,  🐍)‏ @RokoMijic 25 Nov 2019
          Replying to @MartinHarry_T @turpin_martin @Aella_Girl

          It's just an example of a phenomenon that emerges and is bad. Parasites of various kinds are other examples.

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        2. Martin Harry Turpin‏ @MartinHarry_T 25 Nov 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @RokoMijicUK

          A good example of a counterpoint would be city planning. The roads in European cities that were allowed to develop naturally are far less easily navigable than the grid system in the US. Obviously this entails different trade offs in aesthetics and other values though.

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        3. Roko ( 🐍,  🐍)‏ @RokoMijic 25 Nov 2019
          Replying to @MartinHarry_T @turpin_martin @Aella_Girl

          Even that's underestimating it because top-down planners work to fix road networks in Europe You really want to look at roads in very poor developing countries to see just how bad emergent can be.

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