Like, pro-slavery arguments were 'sane'-sounding. Most of what I've read relies on two main points - 1., if you're gonna be anti-slavery you have to change how you treat women/children/animals which is absurd, and 2., we're actively helping the enslaved, this is best for them
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Replying to @Aella_Girl @wglane3
Pro-abortion arguments sound sane too. But at the end of the day, it's killing a baby. Anything else is rationalization.
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Replying to @scullytaco @wglane3
Maybe it is killing a baby, but if killing a fetus = killing a baby then i'm fine with mothers killing their babies.
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Replying to @Aella_Girl @wglane3
ok since people are getting mad at this, what I mean is: I don't care what language we use. Whatever "growth in mother at e.g., 3 months" is, I'm ok with the mother ending that, calling it a baby or not isn't the issue at hand.
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Replying to @Aella_Girl @wglane3
E.g., I'm ok with killing in self defense. If you want to call it "BRUTAL SLAUGHTERR", that's annoying but like, the label you slap on it, however sensationalist, doesn't change the underlying thing I'm discussing. If you wanna call it BRUTAL SLAUGHTERR then ok sure whatever
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Replying to @GoodHeartMommy @wglane3
As I mentioned, I wasn't trying to say abortion was self defense, I was using the term self defense as an example for my point about the way words are used.
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Replying to @GoodHeartMommy @wglane3
Ok sure, I mean I used to be pro life and have protested planned parenthood and my mom was arrested for blocking the door to an abortion clinic, it's not like I don't intimately know what the arguments are.
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It was slow! But basically the argument hinged on 'life from conception', right - that conception imbues the cell cluster with a special soul or life or something. I think my beliefs around 'soul' and 'special life' changed, so 'life from conception' didn't feel persuasive.
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