Maybe it is killing a baby, but if killing a fetus = killing a baby then i'm fine with mothers killing their babies.
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ok since people are getting mad at this, what I mean is: I don't care what language we use. Whatever "growth in mother at e.g., 3 months" is, I'm ok with the mother ending that, calling it a baby or not isn't the issue at hand.
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E.g., I'm ok with killing in self defense. If you want to call it "BRUTAL SLAUGHTERR", that's annoying but like, the label you slap on it, however sensationalist, doesn't change the underlying thing I'm discussing. If you wanna call it BRUTAL SLAUGHTERR then ok sure whatever
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While I appreciate the honesty... It's almost never medically necessary. Almost always elective. Almost always never self defense.
So are you okay with killing an innocent someone (your own child in-utero) intentionally when there is no immediate danger or threat to your life?
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I didn't mean to say abortion is self defense, I was using that as an example for the way we use words - that I don't care what label we use - baby, fetus, little monster, etc., Because the thing we're talking about doesn't change regardless of the label we use.
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That was my point with the original tweet - that I'm ok with ending "collection of early cells in the womb" and that doesn't change if you attach the fetus or baby label, or any other label, because the label isn't the thing.
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That makes more sense, I see what you're saying.
However, the entity in question is not merely a collection of cells. There's quite a bit more going on here for this whole human organism. A new unique human individual at their earliest stage of development has begun their life.
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Thanks for understanding! And I mean to be fair I think I myself am simply a collection of cells. I think killing people is bad because it feels bad and I have empathy. But I can't really imagine it feeling bad for an early stage fetus, I assume it's not very aware.
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So something is only wrong if you feel bad about it? I'm not sure you're asking the right questions here...
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Well I think we have to dissect the question a little bit before we can understand each other. For example, what do you mean when you say "wrong"?
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Morally and ethically wrong, regardless of how we personally and subjectively feel about it.
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Okay but that still doesn't really tell me what you mean by 'wrong' - besides I guess telling me that whatever it is, you view it as existing outside of our feelings.
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