but idk how to engage with it because i haven't read those philosophers because reading those philosophers is a kind of masochism i have not yet ascended to, and so I'm in an awkward position of "I have no idea what you're saying but I know I hate it"
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by this point if i'm at a party and i'm like 'yea but what's it like to feel the sense of thinking' and then someone says 'yeah well nietzsche said-' i just am done, immediately, like my next battle plan is to figure out how to erase philosophers from their mind
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i can't tell if they're doing some weird actually original and good mental jujitsu while using other philosopher's ideas as pawns, or if they are actually completely unoriginal and think that good thinking is just knowing what other good thinkers think. I can't tell.
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As much as I shit on the rationalist community, this is a big part of why I love them - on a whole, they're a level of well-read and nerdy and *don't* pull the philosopher namedropping card. It's glorious.
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For me, the whole point of philosophy (if there has to be a point to it) is the experience of thinking itself. Thinking of hypotheticals and following them to their logical conclusions. Exploring how they mesh or conflict with your existing beliefs. And so on.
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Talking with someone is shared exploration. It's like a dance, in a way. But when someone starts name-dropping, it feels like we are dance floor and they pulled out a phone to show me videos of famous dancers. Ok, those moves may be impressive.. but neither of us are dancing them
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You may argue that this can be a valid way of thinking - when you know the jargon, you really do use this knowledge as mental objects to be manipulated, combined and reasoned about, same as any other field. This is a valid point!
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But if you are talking to someone who does NOT know that jargon, it becomes useless to use it. Think of a doctor explaining a condition to a layman using Latin terms for everything. It is, if not intentional elitism, at least some pretty bad reply game, as would put it
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The problem is terminology != understanding.