Just me or is philosophy actually a complete shitshow? When I was younger I really wanted to major in philosophy because I thought it was "learning to think real good about abstract stuff", but eventually found out it was "quoting other famous people's stuff at each other"
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but idk how to engage with it because i haven't read those philosophers because reading those philosophers is a kind of masochism i have not yet ascended to, and so I'm in an awkward position of "I have no idea what you're saying but I know I hate it"
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by this point if i'm at a party and i'm like 'yea but what's it like to feel the sense of thinking' and then someone says 'yeah well nietzsche said-' i just am done, immediately, like my next battle plan is to figure out how to erase philosophers from their mind
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i can't tell if they're doing some weird actually original and good mental jujitsu while using other philosopher's ideas as pawns, or if they are actually completely unoriginal and think that good thinking is just knowing what other good thinkers think. I can't tell.
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As much as I shit on the rationalist community, this is a big part of why I love them - on a whole, they're a level of well-read and nerdy and *don't* pull the philosopher namedropping card. It's glorious.
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they constantly name drop lol and often do exactly what
@Aella_Girl has discussed
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I imagine it’s a balance between tradition and exploration. Both appear to be needed in the right measure.
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I think people feel the need to cite where their opinions are coming from (maybe because the thought is only half formed). It's distracting, but it comes from a place of humility. If you watch contemporary philosophers have public debates, they avoid doing this though
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I dunno, I feel like having a good feel for the state-of-the-discussion on a particular issue is often more valuable than knowing which camp Joe Schmo has ultimately affiliated himself with.
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I used to quote a lot of people. Now I just make it mine and say it as such. If I’ve considered it, integrated it into my beliefs, it’s mine! I’ll take care of it, adapt it as my own and grow it. And if anyone likes a source, I’d be happy to tell them.
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