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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 2 Jul 2019

      If gender is a socially constructed thing, like there's a 'caricature' of a man, then why do we still consider people 'men' who don't correspond at all to the caricature of a man? And then I doubly don't understand how you can change your gender by making a decision about it.

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 2 Jul 2019

      To clarify: Trans people make sense to me in this context. They work inside caricatures - trans women will grow out their hair and wear makeup, and trans men cut their hair and wear suits. It seems clear the type of gender they're doing, and I get that.

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        1. 𐃌‏ @cooIidge 2 Jul 2019
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          It does seem strange that one can rail against the socially imposed constructions of gender and claim they are entirely separate from sex, yet then claim transition to the other gender by performing/dressing in a manner consistent with the same “constructions”

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        2. “professional” “chef”‏ @SHLURPGOD 2 Jul 2019
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          I strongly recommend looking into @ContraPoints' body of work for clarity on this. Many of her videos address this apparent "paradox" (at least in passing) and shed tons of light on related transgender questions and issues. She's been indispensable to my progress understanding.

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        3. Count(erfactual inter)Vener moved to NYC‏ @Adrusi 3 Jul 2019
          Replying to @SHLURPGOD @Aella_Girl @ContraPoints

          Specifically her video from a couple days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdvM_pRfuFM …

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        1. Ben Havey‏ @BenWHavey 2 Jul 2019
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          Check out Undoing Gender by Judith Butler! Butler's philosophical writing about gender underpins a ton of the dialog/debates about gender today.

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        2. Alexander InvalidValue Cadeyrn‏ @InvalidDefiant 2 Jul 2019
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          I think - and I may have entirely misunderstood this - that much of it is a matter of group identification: trans women primarily see themselves as part of the "women" group, however vaguely- or even undefined beyond "people who consider themselves part of that group" it may be.

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        3. Alexander InvalidValue Cadeyrn‏ @InvalidDefiant 2 Jul 2019
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          An emotional "choice" (if you can call knowing/feeling which group you [do not] belong a choice, that is). And it does not necessarily require following what you call the caricatures (stereotypes, I guess?). Hm. Maybe instinct is more accurate than emotion here? Anyway, I ...

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        2. Linked Out‏ @UpperCayce 2 Jul 2019
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          One of the more frequent comments from transwomen newly on HRT goes, "I have emotions now," or, in the other direction, "How do men get anything done w/o thinking about sex." For some this internal rebalancing is a big part of transitioning...

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        3. Linked Out‏ @UpperCayce 2 Jul 2019
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          but this doesn't require adopting the traditional trappings or, the caricature, as you call it, though many find that desirable.

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        1. Rogs‏ @ESRogs 2 Jul 2019
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          Some amusing meditations on these ideas here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdvM_pRfuFM …

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        2. The Axolotl‏ @calxolotl 2 Jul 2019
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          I think a lot of this makes more sense when you focus on gender-the-verb. As in, every day you encounter a zillion people who look at you and gender you as a woman, and then act accordingly towards you. Most people have a preference for how they are gendered by others. 1/2

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        3. The Axolotl‏ @calxolotl 2 Jul 2019
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          Most of your ability to control how you're gendered comes from which caricature you conform to better. You can also present as nonbinary (=confuse people so they don't gender you confidently). Activists try to change how the gendering happens. Most trans ppl just try to get by.

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