One of the strongest pieces of evidence that our culture sucks at thinking or empathy is the abortion debate. Pro-choicers constantly characterize pro-lifers as "not actually caring about babies, but just want to control the bodies of women" which is one of the stupidest things
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The kind of person who debates a pro-lifer with the lazy insistence that their motivation is bad is the kind of person who believes good things because they are *lucky*, not because they are *good at thinking*
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This is the same kind of person who, had they been born in a different culture, would have embraced the norms of that culture, even if they were barbaric. I can't credit these pro-choicers with any correctness beyond what was given them by their culture.
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And the amount the "they only want to control women!" narrative permeates every discussion is incredible. It's such a heavily dominant opinion in any progressive circle and any suggestion that maybe they actually are trying to save babies is outright rejected or even mocked.
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@sonyaellenmann Great thread. The points you make can be used to describe practically any argument these days. Simplifying the "other side" makes it easier to mock to make "your side" look better. Most seem to be afraid to attempt to understand differing viewpoints. Egobrains. -
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@Aella_Girl uncomfortable though it may be, this is an important examination. "Pro-lifers just want to control women's bodies" is an argument that paints people into corners, it is destructive towards solution-oriented dialogue. I didn't really grok that until now, so THANK YOUThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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The problem with this statement is three-fold. One the insistence that the most effective forms of birth control are also abortion, when they are not. Two, equal attempts to stop birth control. If you believe there's a massacre wouldn't you support the easiest way to stop it?
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I'll continue to say things which on evidence I believe to by true You have the right to disagree and offer counter arguments but just saying "stop saying this" exposes an authoritarian minddet
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Agreed. I think it's far too easy to claim "they are misled". This anti abortion movement might not be homogeneous but there are definitely quite a few fanatics among them. They'd do everything to prevent abortion. They are ultra conservative in every way. Yes it's about control.
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