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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Oct 2018

      What's the difference between 'cis by default' and 'agender'?

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    2. Sam Burnstein‏ @GrumplessGrinch 14 Oct 2018
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      Whether or not you identify with your assigned gender. Cis by default still means you identify as cis.

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    3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Oct 2018
      Replying to @GrumplessGrinch

      i don't know what identify means

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    4. Alex Weldon‏ @BeneFactumGames 14 Oct 2018
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @GrumplessGrinch

      Sure you do. If I call you a woman, do you feel the label correctly describes you? If so, you identify as a woman. If I call you a Zoroastrian, do you feel the same way? If not, then you don't identify as Zoroastrian. It's pretty easy.

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    5. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Oct 2018
      Replying to @BeneFactumGames @GrumplessGrinch

      The label is used to predict things, right? If you call me a woman, I think "I have a vagina, and long hair, and XX chromosomes, and those things are extremely highly correlated with the word 'woman,' so yes that label fits" 'Identity' seems like a word that doesn't mean that tho

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    6. Alex Weldon‏ @BeneFactumGames 14 Oct 2018
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @GrumplessGrinch

      You're confusing gender and physical sex. We now separate physical characteristics from social expectations, behavioural factors, aptitudes, etc.

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    7. Alex Weldon‏ @BeneFactumGames 14 Oct 2018
      Replying to @BeneFactumGames @Aella_Girl @GrumplessGrinch

      So a trans-man or "man with XX chromosomes and a vagina" (to simplify) is someone assigned to the female gender at birth based on physical characteristics, but is more comfortable behaving and interacting in ways society generally sees as male.

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Oct 2018
      Replying to @BeneFactumGames @GrumplessGrinch

      I understand that. But you asked me, does woman correctly describe me? And when I think about that, I think about my physical sex. I don't have any felt sense of 'womanness' or anything, and my sense of 'role in society and the way it treats me' doesn't feel inherent at all.

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        2. Alex Weldon‏ @BeneFactumGames 14 Oct 2018
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @GrumplessGrinch

          Probably because you feel no discomfort when people treat you "like a woman." That's what cis by default is.

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        3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 14 Oct 2018
          Replying to @BeneFactumGames @GrumplessGrinch

          Right. My understanding of 'agender' was that they 'have no felt sense of gender'. Google says 'does not identify as', which I think I've been interpreting as the same?pic.twitter.com/x0q9Ot1ss0

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        2. Alex Weldon‏ @BeneFactumGames 14 Oct 2018
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          Yeah, that's basically the point. That's what I mean when I saw it's an interim measure while we work on dismantling gender roles entirely. People who've grown up being scolded for not acting like their assigned gender is "supposed" to may reject the gender.

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        2. Sam Burnstein‏ @GrumplessGrinch 14 Oct 2018
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @BeneFactumGames

          Most people. best I can tell, do have a felt sense of woman-ness or man-ness and it's quite important to them. It sounds like you're probably cis-by-default.

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