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    1. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      Attention #gamedev and #indiedevhour lets talk about game genres and sales potential on Steam. Look at this chart. This is what genres the Steam player desires (oooh desire😍💦) Thread about this ...... 🔽🔽🔽 (1/10)pic.twitter.com/rwacBs0Lub

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    2. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      That graph came from devs sending me the num wishlists they got during the Steam Summer Festival. I crossreferenced that to genres. This thread is not how we should market-test every idea and all ditch our dreams to make the same genre. I just want you to know the odds:(2/10)pic.twitter.com/GxlHvSjRSI

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    3. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      Knowing the odds will give you some sanity. It will tell you if you are in a risky category so you can tailor your expectations/development. It can tell you if it is wise to invest more in a game or cut features and see how it performs before spending another 6 mo on it.(3/10)

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    4. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      Back to the data: I used @eastshade 's data to calculate the 30%-50%-70% percentile earnings for every game in genres popular with indies. (see this https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DannyWeinbaum/20191115/353349/Genre_Viability_on_Steam_and_Other_Trends__An_Analysis_Using_Review_Count.php …) That graph of earnings vs genre looks like this: (4/10)pic.twitter.com/qO8NJ4ASAI

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    5. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      I also used @eastshade 's data to count the number of games tagged with each genre. That graph looks like this. When I did that I realized this graph and the previous are almost mirrors of each other.(5/10)pic.twitter.com/suyV4cBZK0

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    6. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      When I graph the median sales estimate against the total number of games released on Steam you get this chart. (6/10)pic.twitter.com/7otyo3CAGO

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    7. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      That chart is an almost econ 101 text book version of the supply / demand curve. Look I found this one online and I swear the curve color match was a coincidence. (7/10)pic.twitter.com/evoZFPHeAm

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      Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

      Now I am not saying don't make platformers (I make them!) I am just saying that you should be aware of the scale. It's a joke that all indies are platformers. It stopped me cold when I saw how many more there were than any other genre and how low the median sales were(8/10)pic.twitter.com/gCbVjTI64o

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        2. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

          If you want to help clarify this data, I am running another survey of the Steam Autumn Festival to see wishlists and genre. If you had a game in the festival, please fill out this survey:https://forms.gle/YPt75Ag5Mn75snXp8 …

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        3. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020

          You can also read the full writeup of the data here: http://howtomarketagame.com/2020/10/19/steamgenres/ …

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        4. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 23 Oct 2020

          This blew up a lot bigger than I was expecting. Thanks for the great suggestions on ways to slice this data in different ways. I will be working on some new charts. I write blogs like this one EVERY WEEK. Get them in your inbox by joining my mailing list https://mailchi.mp/chriszukowski/emailmarketing …

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        2. Eric Bailey‏ @EricVBailey 22 Oct 2020
          Replying to @AdventureMtn

          i just want the record to show that i *very much embrace* the cliché of an indiedev's first game being a 'quirky platformer' 😂

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        3. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020
          Replying to @EricVBailey

          The first game I ever released commercially was a puzzle platformer.

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        1. o1lo01ol1o‏ @o1lo01ol1o 22 Oct 2020
          Replying to @AdventureMtn

          What are the cumulative totals per genre?

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        1. Shotgun Anaconda (@VelocityNooodle dev)‏ @ShotgunAnaconda 22 Oct 2020
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          well..... crap. lol.

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        2. Liam Twose: #PitchYaGame Founder‏ @LiamTwose 22 Oct 2020
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          Liam Twose: #PitchYaGame Founder Retweeted Liam Twose: #PitchYaGame Founder

          Hey Chris, great thread.. I think you would find my genre data for #IndieGames pitched via @pitchyagame very interesting!https://twitter.com/liamTwose/status/1317836070512398339 …

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          #PitchYaGame Top 39 genres ranked.. [mini thread 1/9] #01 = Adventure (418 - 15.25%) #02 = Puzzle (315 - 11.49%) #03 = Action (264 - 9.63%) #04 = RPG (261 - 9.52%) #05 = Platformer (201 - 7.33%) pic.twitter.com/vEPlITGAuz
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        3. Chris‏ @AdventureMtn 22 Oct 2020
          Replying to @LiamTwose @pitchYaGame

          Great. It looks like things are changing a bit with Platformer moving down the list. That could just be a generational thing with newer devs not so versed in that genre.

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        1.  🎮 Remtaine‏ @remtaine 23 Oct 2020
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          Oof for everyone making a platformer

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