100%, but universities have spent so long defunding and de-prioritizing undergraduate teaching, and marketing “the university experience” as the justification for rising tuition. The pushback makes sense, but it sucks that it’s aimed at pedagogy and not institutional priorities
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Replying to @noamtlior
Yeah that isn't what the original poll was even about though, or not how it presented the issue. It was not about the corporatization of universities but instead is a bad faith framing of online teaching during a pandemic.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @noamtlior
It assumes that online teaching is worth less than F2F, and I highly object to that framing. Yes, I understand that students expect a certain experience in university. However, all this does is place the blame on people who have no role in deciding tuition costs.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @noamtlior
If universities were advertising their experience during a pandemic as being the same as it was pre-March 2020, then that is on uni leadership. It should not be framed against online teaching.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @noamtlior
There are elements of physical learning that come with certain degrees, which I also understand. But it was a pandemic. I don't want to say that people should have expected that stuff to be curtailed.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @noamtlior
At my own institution, the students' union was demanding F2F teaching while TAs (PhD students) would have had to deal with unsafe conditions, antimaskers, no ventilation. The provost was demanding F2F too until the government said otherwise.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @noamtlior
So putting up garbage twitter polls about paying $50k to have an online class is nonsense, and I'm going to say that. If they want to critique anyone then they should be going after uni admin that pushed F2F and moving to campus before pivoting last minute.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @noamtlior
Forcing instructors and TAs to learn how to deliver classes online without any training and putting students into a bad situation where they are getting sick from their flatmates.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
Yes to all of this. I think the bad faith argument in the poll is bolstered by institutional bad faith bait-and-switch tactics that highlight “the university experience” when they want to cut teaching support, and then emphasize teaching to justify keeping tuition rates
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Replying to @noamtlior @AdmiralHip
That institutional narrative gets picked up uncritically in coverage like this poll, and teachers get assessed/blamed for the tuition’s “value,” even as they’re stripped of resources
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Yes exactly but then you get this perpetuated by students who are understandably upset by the last year but without knowing who is responsible or why. Polls like this don’t help at all.
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