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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      But their rollout is much faster. So here they keep wanting to reopen society, but how does that work when the people who will face the brunt of that will be unvaccinated?

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    2. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill Mar 31
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      They would argue (and again, I'm on the fence about who's right here but there's logic in the argument) that efficiency and speed are even more important given the initial slow roll-out. I think people are underestimating the admin nightmare that a profession-based rollout is.

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    3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      I don’t really think it would be as difficult as they say. But again I doubt this is going to speed anything up. Maybe it will, if it makes it easier for GPs to collect a list, but since they were already partially doing aged based anyway (with HCWs) that still seems bungled.

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    4. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      I mean there needs to be some kind of overhaul, regardless, of how they contact people and the speed they are vaccinating people.

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    5. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill Mar 31
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      I think the difference is that the current delays are (primarily) supply-based, not admin-based. The Gov are taking Pfizer, AZ and J&J at their word and assuming those delays will be over by the end of April, so are trying to avoid replacing supply delays w/ admin delays.

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    6. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      This is true, there are supply issues. Constantly being told that supplies will increase and then they don’t seem to be is also part of the issue.

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    7. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill Mar 31
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      Yeah, that plays a huge part. Overall, I think the new vacc plan is a calculated risk, but which does have a logical foundation. We could say the same about the old plan. The problem is that this gov has an awful track record of picking the wrong option in the last 6 months...

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    8. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      To be honest, seeing immunology experts say the plan is bad makes me worried, and yeah they don’t exactly have a good track record. Here’s hope it works out.

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    9. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill Mar 31
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      The problem is that immunology experts (on the Gov's vacc advisory panel and NPHET) also recommended the new plan. Because of their positions though, they can't go public and defend it, so it's easy for media to frame as 'smart experts vs dumb politicians'.

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    10. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      The argument against is that vaccinating people who are the most in front of society means you help break chains of transmission, which makes sense. In the wave of new variants as well that do pose higher risk to younger people, that is also something to consider.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      I get that it’s difficult for laypeople to parse this stuff but there have been studies on risks that essential workers face and that it is useful to vaccinate them early on. I don’t have the time to look for them specifically atm but it’s not a new perspective.

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        2. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill Mar 31
          Replying to @AdmiralHip

          Which you have to weigh up against the data from UK and Israel about the benefits of a fast, age-based roll-out. Like I said, both strategies are risk/reward based and the reward for the age-based plan (full vaccination much faster) appears more enticing for politicians.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Mar 31
          Replying to @NiallOSuill

          They have the benefit of more vaccines though, which has worked out well for them. So young people with underlying health conditions got their first shots ages ago now.

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