Really need white anthopologists, archaeologists, and historians to stop referring to religious people in W. Europe as 'shamans'. Stop using Indigenous terminology like that. It's irresponsible and inaccurate.
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I'm sure that there are similarities in practice. But can it be called shamanism, when the term is very specifically tied to Siberian Indigenous groups, and that the term itself may be rooted in a colonial practice? Unless the pre-Christian Hungarians were using "shaman" 1/2
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or a derived term from the Evenki in Siberia then I will reiterate once again that imprecise and inaccurate language does not help anyone.
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So the Hungarians are linguistically tied to the Evenki people in Siberia and thus used the word? Because it is also worth noting that "shaman" is a word several times removed from Evenki too, and Indigenous peoples have said we should move past it entirely.
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You replied that it was okay to use shamanism to discuss the Hungarians, and I said that it is not. Unless they had a cognate word in their own language, which seems unlikely because Hungarian is a descendant of a different Siberian lang, then I'm not sure what your point is.
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Relying on an ethnographer who, when I look at his work, seems to elide spiritual and religious practices of many different peoples under "shamanism" (and uses words like "aborigine") while ignoring that there is plenty of discussion since as to why it's problematic
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and that it should not get applied wholesale to Indigenous religions as it has been, and especially not to places where they did not use the term at all and there is no evidence they used it is a highly frustrating conversation to have.
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