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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Lauren‏ @lenofi Feb 3

      Lauren Retweeted Beira Atlántica

      i love mythology where ancient peoples get sent underground or to the Otherworld. (ex: ireland) i am wondering if this is a shared tenet from the iron age communities that existed in both regions. or is it early med christianization? either way it’s juicyhttps://twitter.com/AtlanticaBeira/status/1357096406494961666 …

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      Beira Atlántica @AtlanticaBeira
      Like in so many other Galician hillforts, this one was inhabited by the "mouros". These ancient inhabitants lived in the houses on the surface, but the Saint James expelled them underground. pic.twitter.com/QXgAnu4d6k
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    2. Lauren‏ @lenofi Feb 3

      there were theories of celtiberian connections derived from irish iron age and early med lore, particularly northern spain. cf the whole “miles espana”/milesians theory. anyway the irish and the gallaeci spoke q-celtic variants IIRC. i am just musing.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Feb 3
      Replying to @lenofi

      Unsure how legit the gallaeci q-Celtic thing is (I think it’s debated in linguistics but I am unsure) and the Mil Espaine is probably an influence from either Rome or Isidore of Seville (whose work was very popular before the Mil Espaine stuff appeared).

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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Feb 3
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @lenofi

          But the underground/otherworld thing is interesting because in Ancient Rome and Greece the association with the underground with Hades and chthonic deities strikes me that it may be a wider motif influenced by burial passages (like in Ireland with the burial mounds)

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Feb 3
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @lenofi

          And I do wonder about natural caves and such in Italy and Greece that influenced something like this too or maybe Mycenaean and Minoan tombs. I don’t know anything about Neolithic and Bronze Age Iberia but maybe there is a comparable example.

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        2. Lauren‏ @lenofi Feb 3
          Replying to @AdmiralHip

          oh i was just bringing it up to show a history of people drawing that connection between the regions. but i think I would agree with that idea of it arising 6th/7thC. i love medieval artificial and (pseudo)historical links when the christian

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        3. Beira Atlántica‏ @AtlanticaBeira Feb 3
          Replying to @lenofi @AdmiralHip

          In my opinion, our tales about Christians against "mouros" are (Christianized) fragments of an ancient cosmogonic narrative homologous to the Irish in many ways. "Mouros" are our Tuatha Dé Danann 😅

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        2. Lauren‏ @lenofi Feb 3
          Replying to @AdmiralHip

          thinkers need to back up their legitimacy and authority. i love and hate historiography as you can probably guess.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip Feb 3
          Replying to @lenofi

          It can be frustrating because some things are taken at face value and not challenged ever. The origin of Q-Celtic though is not established...and I never wade into it because there are three schools of thought or something and are very different.

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        1. Beira Atlántica‏ @AtlanticaBeira Feb 3
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @lenofi

          It is likely that in Gallaecia, in the period prior to the Roman conquest, several languages ​​were spoken, among them (surely) a Celtic language that have left traces specially in place names.

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