I really want to understand this worldview, so I can roast it better.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
I've seen a little bit of people who are really into "localist" stuff and "domestic production will support workers" stuff fall into that. There's a somewhat similar trend in the US where self-IDed leftists claim immigration lowers wages and should be stopped.
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Replying to @Gearoid_Dubh
sounds like typical right wing propaganda to be honest.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
Yeah I'm not sure about the rigor of the studies on that issue. In the US they're pushed heavily by a group of rightist anti-immigration think-tanks and I'm not so great with math and the like so I can't read the studies and check them easily myself.
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Replying to @Gearoid_Dubh
gonna go out on a limb here and say they're garbage
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
From what I could tell, some of them were legitimate, but the question of whether driving down wages was a net benefit or net harm wasn't answered. The limited assertion may be true but out of context.
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Replying to @Gearoid_Dubh
how could any of them be legitimate when the premise itself is racist and xenophobic
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
Some of the studies were done by more credible think-tanks and simply looked at the issue neutrally. Immigration may drive down individual wages somewhat. The real question is whether as a whole that actually harms most individuals.
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Replying to @Gearoid_Dubh
I'm gonna stop you there, because tbh I really don't care about studies that examine the impact of immigration on wages. It doesn't sound like a legitimate premise regardless of how neutral it may appear, and it also sounds like nonsense when wages are essentially arbitrary.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
That's fair. I see your point, I think the counter is that good-faith efforts by think-tanks not motivated by prejudice can help create good arguments and rhetoric that can influence the public and prevent rightist groups for misleading people.
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Okay but that isn't what I'm talking about here, and I do not think there were any good faith reasonings behind Brexit. Nor am I talking about the public at large, but rather a specific individual.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
Ah, I missed the context then. I'm sorry. I also agree Brexit doesn't really fit that framework well. Even many Tory-aligned groups saw bad economic forecasts from it, though a few particular partisan think-tanks managed to dominate discourse.
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Replying to @Gearoid_Dubh
There isn't really any context, it's a subtweet. But it's also a comment on how someone prioritizes class/economy over racism.
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