If you cannot see how those that follow Trump are at their core, bigots and that they're better world is literally rooted in white supremacy and that Trump did not start the racism that was already endemic in America then I have no idea what else to say.
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Let me be very clear: these people were already racist. They were already bigots. It's why they followed Trump in the first place but if you honestly think this only started happening in the last four years and it's embedded in the national consciousness...wow.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
I agree with you entirely. I think you're arguing with something you imagine I've said rather than what I've actually said.
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Replying to @mattlodder @FlorenceHRS
Then why are you crying about their hope for a better world?
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
Because I'd rather they hoped for something other than fascism?
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Replying to @mattlodder @AdmiralHip
I just think that singling out their hope rather than their hate (in fact, claiming she has no hate, and thus equating behaviour with bad intent, a tactic of respectability politics) is a bad way to respond to someone involved in a fascist coup.
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Replying to @FlorenceHRS @mattlodder
Yeah we can all hope they aren't fascists, but they are, they made their choice. It's one thing to be upset if a family member is a Trump supporter. But a stranger part of an armed coup? No.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
I definitely care that people are Trump supporters rather than, you know, not being Trump supporters. Not sympathetically, but politically. It fucking *matters* that people choose fascism. The fact that people choose fascism upsets me. I'm sure it upsets you too. Stop.
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Replying to @mattlodder @AdmiralHip
Okay, obviously this is just a conversation between you and Catherine because I've tried politely engaging you twice in this discussion and been ignored. So I will 'stop'.
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Replying to @FlorenceHRS @AdmiralHip
Not ignoring. Apologies. Just using to avoid an argument. I'm not sad for fascists. I'm sad that fascists exist. Can't make that any clearer. Thank you for fighting the good fight; solidarity always.
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“Using to avoid an argument”? Not sure what that means but I think Florence deserved a reply as much as I did, and they made excellent points about your original tweet.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
I think we agree 100% on the substance here and I am sorry I wasn't clear enough to express that in a sufficiently clear way. Not got the stomach for an argument tonight and don't think we need one anyway. Fuck fascists. Solidarity.
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