"White America" is her end point, but not her starting point. I'll condemn that "solution" with every fibre of my being. What I'm sad -- broken -- is that a genuine desire to make the world better finds its end in such horror and evil, as I said. I cry that people hope for evil.
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Replying to @mattlodder @FlorenceHRS
It's absolutely her starting point. Anyone who followed Trump aligned with his views in some manner and acting like they started good but descended into evil ignores how ingrained racism is in society, period. Not just America.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
The starting point is "How can I make things better". Following Trump is after that. Please don't read this as apologia. It's the opposite. The point is: there's energy here, there's desire here, there's hope here. I'm crushed it's directed the way it is.
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Replying to @mattlodder @FlorenceHRS
If you cannot see how those that follow Trump are at their core, bigots and that they're better world is literally rooted in white supremacy and that Trump did not start the racism that was already endemic in America then I have no idea what else to say.
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Let me be very clear: these people were already racist. They were already bigots. It's why they followed Trump in the first place but if you honestly think this only started happening in the last four years and it's embedded in the national consciousness...wow.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
I agree with you entirely. I think you're arguing with something you imagine I've said rather than what I've actually said.
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Replying to @mattlodder @FlorenceHRS
Then why are you crying about their hope for a better world?
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
Because I'd rather they hoped for something other than fascism?
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Replying to @mattlodder @AdmiralHip
I just think that singling out their hope rather than their hate (in fact, claiming she has no hate, and thus equating behaviour with bad intent, a tactic of respectability politics) is a bad way to respond to someone involved in a fascist coup.
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Replying to @FlorenceHRS @mattlodder
Yeah we can all hope they aren't fascists, but they are, they made their choice. It's one thing to be upset if a family member is a Trump supporter. But a stranger part of an armed coup? No.
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And again, regardless of your personal feelings on fascism, maybe consider why there might be objections to this instead of claiming we're reading into things that aren't there.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @FlorenceHRS
You seem to have taken my statement of deep, existential sadness that some people think fascism will make their lives better, as apologia for fascism. I'm sorry I gave that impression, but I'm not sure what more I can say or do to to assure you otherwise.
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Replying to @mattlodder @FlorenceHRS
Maybe clarify why you are concerned with their "hope for a better world" and why that matters at all instead of interrogating how deep these attitudes run.
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