Look everyone. Pull out your bingo cards. "Bully" "I know it all" "Attacking" Correcting isn't attacking.https://twitter.com/ZeePDX/status/1336664441232867332 …
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You harassed in bad faith for hours never acknowledging any engagement with the issue. And if people want to engage in a discussion today, let's try this one:https://www.thedigradio.com/podcast/identity-power-and-speech-with-olufemi-taiwo/ …
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Replying to @ZeePDX @ISASaxonists
Excuse me? No engagement in the issue? Dr MRO has been speaking and working on this issue way longer than you have even been aware there was a problem. It’s you and your friend who have been talking in bad faith. We have sources and expertise, provided that, and you dismissed it.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists
Ten years? We know the field and the issues. We are researchers. I have not seen a viable alternative that we don't already use when it is better.
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Replying to @ZeePDX @ISASaxonists
You aren’t medievalists who have been reading/studying/writing on early medieval England. You have your podcast, and it sounds like from your listeners you never actually dealt with this before. Feel free to give specific episodes. You also haven’t read any recent work, evidently
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Susan Oosthuizen gives many alternatives, and she has recently published on it. So have others, as per the medium article. You have never shown why any alternatives are bad. You just keep parroting the point without evidence, engagement with sources.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists
Early medieval is a time period. English is unbounded by time. Early English is poorly bounded. Pre-Norman is actively fucked up, I don't understand how anybody could suggest that. Saxon, Angle(variations) and obviously Jutes imply specificity we don't have.
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Replying to @ZeePDX @ISASaxonists
Anglo-Saxon implies specificity too that is unknowable. And Early medieval England/English uses the time to bound the term English, as English was in fact used in that period. There are many other terms though that have been suggested. Pre-Norman is bad, I agree.
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The people themselves used Angles and Saxons. In my own work when talking about the Anglian kingdoms I say that, and for the Saxon kingdoms I use Saxon. If I need to be more general, then early English kingdoms. Readers know what I mean because I define my terms.
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There will be no perfect term but sticking with a term that has a white supremacist history, that was used more in the name of white supremacy and racism than it ever was in the early medieval period is fucking ridiculous.
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The fact that two non-experts with a podcast don't care to engage with experts on this, who have insight, sources, expertise is fucking absurd. But okay go ahead and believe the racists in your DMs.
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