I just got an email telling me that they love the show but they don't like it when I'm snarky, they don't like the asides, and they don't like the music. Not sure what they like about the show tbh. Maybe that it has "British" in the title? Lol.
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Mark me down as the other side of that: love the snark, the asides, the music, almost as much as the deep dive into primary sources across the continent, scholarship, and archaeology. But do we have to keep using
#anglosaxon as a term? Have you considered a Shop Talk on it?3 replies 0 retweets 29 likes -
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I don't give ground to white supremacists. Period. Partially because no matter what new word we pick, they'll try to poison that one too and laugh as we struggle to find a new word again. I mean, the dickbags are even making the ok sign racist. You can't give ground to them.
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Allen Shull Retweeted Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe
Of course. Of course. Sorry that I’m not very good at nuance in Twitter. But I just meant that I was surprised to never hear anything about the ISAS
ISSEME transitions and the continued fallout:https://mobile.twitter.com/ISASaxonists/status/1336362545557495810 …Allen Shull added,
Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe @ISASaxonistsInteresting that John Hines continues to advocate for use of a term that is not only historically inaccurate but has been rooted in racist colonialism/imperialism for 100s of years. If one argues so adamantly against anti-racist scholars what does that make them?#medievaltwitter https://twitter.com/fen_ken/status/1336355724360888321 …2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes -
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It's not that you are ceding ground to racists, it's just not accurate an accurate term.https://mrambaranolm.medium.com/history-bites-resources-on-the-problematic-term-anglo-saxon-part-1-9320b6a09eb7 …
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Wait are we talking about modern use of the word? Because I'm talking about 6th century. And if I'm not allowed to call the broad culture of the Germanic communities on the east coast of England in the 6th century "Anglo Saxon" what am I supposed to call it?
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Also, I genuinely don't see the strategic sense of abandoning terms that people (right or wrong) are fond of. I side pretty firmly with Gramsci on things like this. Let people enjoy the term, and show them that the history of those people is antithetical to white supremacy.
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I don't think anyone has ever won converts by saying "the symbols you love are bad, and you're bad for liking them, and we're going to get rid of it all." And in this case, it makes the White Supremacists sound like they have a point with their "erasure" nonsense, you know?
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actually there is plenty of reason to abandon terminology if it is neither historically accurate and also racist. As
@ISASaxonists says, it has been used as a white supremacist term for centuries. It was used 4 times in the early med period, and definitely NOT in the 6th c.1 reply 0 retweets 19 likes
As for the terms you use, well, migrants from the Continent? Naming specific groups like Angles, Saxons, Frisians, Franks, Jutes, and numerous others? I suggest reading Susan Oosthuizen's work on this.
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Or how about English, since by the time we have writing, that is what they're calling themselves. Yes, even the "Saxons". If you need to be specific, then Anglian kingdom, Saxon kingdom, or Mercian, Northumbrian, etc. Being precise isn't bad.
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I mean her work is emphasized heavily in that resource and she's cited on the 3rd page. People are free to read all of those things for a better understanding of things or they can just cite an Italian Marxist from the 30s as grounds for continued use of an inaccurate/racist term
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