I just got an email telling me that they love the show but they don't like it when I'm snarky, they don't like the asides, and they don't like the music. Not sure what they like about the show tbh. Maybe that it has "British" in the title? Lol.
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Mark me down as the other side of that: love the snark, the asides, the music, almost as much as the deep dive into primary sources across the continent, scholarship, and archaeology. But do we have to keep using
#anglosaxon as a term? Have you considered a Shop Talk on it?3 replies 0 retweets 29 likes -
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I don't give ground to white supremacists. Period. Partially because no matter what new word we pick, they'll try to poison that one too and laugh as we struggle to find a new word again. I mean, the dickbags are even making the ok sign racist. You can't give ground to them.
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Allen Shull Retweeted Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe
Of course. Of course. Sorry that I’m not very good at nuance in Twitter. But I just meant that I was surprised to never hear anything about the ISAS
ISSEME transitions and the continued fallout:https://mobile.twitter.com/ISASaxonists/status/1336362545557495810 …Allen Shull added,
Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe @ISASaxonistsInteresting that John Hines continues to advocate for use of a term that is not only historically inaccurate but has been rooted in racist colonialism/imperialism for 100s of years. If one argues so adamantly against anti-racist scholars what does that make them?#medievaltwitter https://twitter.com/fen_ken/status/1336355724360888321 …2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes -
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It's not that you are ceding ground to racists, it's just not accurate an accurate term.https://mrambaranolm.medium.com/history-bites-resources-on-the-problematic-term-anglo-saxon-part-1-9320b6a09eb7 …
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1.) The show uses Anglo-Saxon very specifically, not broadly as the complaint in this essay. We place it very much in the exact context that you demand, in relation to a complex and shifting field of social, linguistic, and political cultures.
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2.) We very explicitly teach it in contrast to colonialist race theories and aim to topple any notion of a superior "people," least of all the Anglo-Saxons-turning-English.
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3.) This phrase, "learn about the various tribes, most notably the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and sometimes the Frisia" makes me want to know what wealth of specified information you're drawing from that allows such distinctions from this time period?
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those are the groups that the people of the time (well, Bede) stated they came from. It was more complex than that (see Susan Oosthuizen's work) which is why Anglo-Saxon is not that accurate. It began as an exonym and was only used in England at the end of the 9th c a few times.
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outside of that, even the "Saxons" referred to themselves as English, see for instance Ine's Law. Anglo-Saxon is not historically accurate of a term, a fact that has been pointed out well before last year, in fact by Susan Reynolds in 1985.
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To that point also, white supremacists didn't just pick it up in the last 10 years. It has been a white supremacist term for a very long time. In Canada, America, Britain, Ireland...many places.
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oh and for the record, dismissing this because of "feelings" is bullshit, because you were all just hit with facts but your insistence on keeping to inaccurate terminology without having reckoned with the literature on it says a lot.
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