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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. The British History Podcast‏ @BritishPodcast 8 Dec 2020

      I just got an email telling me that they love the show but they don't like it when I'm snarky, they don't like the asides, and they don't like the music. Not sure what they like about the show tbh. Maybe that it has "British" in the title? Lol.

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    2. Allen Shull‏ @allenshull 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BritishPodcast

      Mark me down as the other side of that: love the snark, the asides, the music, almost as much as the deep dive into primary sources across the continent, scholarship, and archaeology. But do we have to keep using #anglosaxon as a term? Have you considered a Shop Talk on it?

      3 replies 0 retweets 29 likes
    3. The British History Podcast‏ @BritishPodcast 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @allenshull

      I don't give ground to white supremacists. Period. Partially because no matter what new word we pick, they'll try to poison that one too and laugh as we struggle to find a new word again. I mean, the dickbags are even making the ok sign racist. You can't give ground to them.

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    4. Allen Shull‏ @allenshull 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BritishPodcast

      Allen Shull Retweeted Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe

      Of course. Of course. Sorry that I’m not very good at nuance in Twitter. But I just meant that I was surprised to never hear anything about the ISAS➡️ISSEME transitions and the continued fallout:https://mobile.twitter.com/ISASaxonists/status/1336362545557495810 …

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      Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe @ISASaxonists
      Interesting that John Hines continues to advocate for use of a term that is not only historically inaccurate but has been rooted in racist colonialism/imperialism for 100s of years. If one argues so adamantly against anti-racist scholars what does that make them? #medievaltwitter https://twitter.com/fen_ken/status/1336355724360888321 …
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    5. Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe‏ @ISASaxonists 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @allenshull @BritishPodcast

      It's not that you are ceding ground to racists, it's just not accurate an accurate term.https://mrambaranolm.medium.com/history-bites-resources-on-the-problematic-term-anglo-saxon-part-1-9320b6a09eb7 …

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    6. Zee  🛸‏ @ZeePDX 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ISASaxonists @allenshull @BritishPodcast

      1.) The show uses Anglo-Saxon very specifically, not broadly as the complaint in this essay. We place it very much in the exact context that you demand, in relation to a complex and shifting field of social, linguistic, and political cultures.

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    7. Zee  🛸‏ @ZeePDX 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ZeePDX @ISASaxonists and

      2.) We very explicitly teach it in contrast to colonialist race theories and aim to topple any notion of a superior "people," least of all the Anglo-Saxons-turning-English.

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    8. Zee  🛸‏ @ZeePDX 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ZeePDX @ISASaxonists and

      3.) This phrase, "learn about the various tribes, most notably the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and sometimes the Frisia" makes me want to know what wealth of specified information you're drawing from that allows such distinctions from this time period?

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 8 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ZeePDX @ISASaxonists and

      those are the groups that the people of the time (well, Bede) stated they came from. It was more complex than that (see Susan Oosthuizen's work) which is why Anglo-Saxon is not that accurate. It began as an exonym and was only used in England at the end of the 9th c a few times.

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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 8 Dec 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @ZeePDX and

          outside of that, even the "Saxons" referred to themselves as English, see for instance Ine's Law. Anglo-Saxon is not historically accurate of a term, a fact that has been pointed out well before last year, in fact by Susan Reynolds in 1985.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 8 Dec 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @ZeePDX and

          To that point also, white supremacists didn't just pick it up in the last 10 years. It has been a white supremacist term for a very long time. In Canada, America, Britain, Ireland...many places.

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        2. Zee  🛸‏ @ZeePDX 8 Dec 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists and

          Yes, our listeners absolutely know that it is more complex than that. Specifically they know that Bede is the only reference to "Jutes" and there is no way of knowing that such a group actually existed.

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        3. Zee  🛸‏ @ZeePDX 8 Dec 2020
          Replying to @ZeePDX @AdmiralHip and

          They also know when AS came into use, that it wasn't the term these people used for themselves and that what they would have known themselves as was descendents of patriarchal clans.

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