I found it SO hard not to get sidetracked by all the medical history when I did some tutorials on it! Like yes OK we need to focus on its effects on society but did you know there's this argument that it was pneumonic and not bubonic and here's why that doesn't hold up etc etc
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Replying to @HighHawkSeason @AdmiralHip
(half-remembering this at best at this stage)
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there were actually three forms! Bubonic, pneumatic, and there was a gastrointestinal form too apparently. Was staying up late reading some literature on it, it's very complex.
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but one of my students was like "oh well I'm not sure if they know where it came from" so I was like, okay well here is an excuse to ramble about it haha.
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I think there had been a recent study tracing it to marmots when I was reading up on it, I remember making the point that this does not mean there was a big influx of marmots into Europe, there would have to have been intermediary steps
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Marmots may have been the first vector, but the possibility for various vectors, like rats, camels, or even just fleas existing on marmot furs etc. are all possible and likely given trade routes etc.
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Trying to remember what I learned because it was all so fascinating... Is there a thing where it wasn't very transmissible human to human but had to build up a big bacterial load in rats first, then a flea could end up with enough to infect someone?
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I think the jury is still out on how transmissible it was from human to human, but the fleas contained the bacteria in their GI tract long enough to transmit between people.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @HighHawkSeason
Climate may have affected how it spread between people also, because before both the Justinianic Plague and the Black Death there were volcanic eruptions.
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Damn so what you're saying is that a conjunction of venus DID result in noxious miasmas being released from the earth and they were right about what caused it at the time
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Lmao we read one of those sources today and I could tell my students were like ?????
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