To respond to your points: no one ever said that publishers don't need money. But they aren't making money off grad students, and it was a person who works for a publisher who came here to shame a grad student asking for a PDF.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @LucyAllenFWR and
The business model of a publisher breaking even on highly priced books where they only print 200-300 of them, where most of the purchases are made via libraries and not precarious PhDs and academics is an issue but it isn't one that a grad student can solve.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @CanaryCaroline and
I absolutely agree with that. But, having been a grad student (and an unfunded independent scholar), I still think it is not wrong for a publisher to point out that they need to make money. And we need to recognise that.
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Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @CanaryCaroline and
I'm sorry but I do not agree. It is not appropriate to harangue a grad student for asking for a PDF when they have ignored everyone else who have been asking for PDFs, all it did was direct harassment towards a PhD student.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @CanaryCaroline and
But it wasn't, surely? Unless I am missing something, this was just a tweet explaining the situation? I do relate, because I felt really awful when I tweeted someone and asked for their newly-published book, only for them to explain they'd actually relied on people buying it.
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Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @CanaryCaroline and
Have you looked through the entire thread? Did you see Caroline's initial tweet? That wasn't explaining anything, that was just some passive aggressive nonsense, and clearly she only cares because it's a book from her publisher. If she cared about the moral issue 1/
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @LucyAllenFWR and
Then she would have said something to me a few weeks ago when I needed something, or to all the other scholars talking about the free PDFs. I don't think that Chris thinks that publishers shouldn't get paid. Her point was clearly trying to act like he was preventing 2/
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @LucyAllenFWR and
People from getting paid because he requested a free copy of a book from the publisher she works for, when he never would have bought the book in the first place if he could go to the library. 3/3
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @CanaryCaroline and
But it's not her fault he can't go to the library?
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Replying to @LucyAllenFWR @CanaryCaroline and
It's also not Chris's fault that he can't go to the library. She doesn't have to weigh in. And again, she isn't losing wages or salary because grad students are getting PDFs.
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Lucy, Caroline came to this thread as did several others to complain and attack Chris. Chris did not go up to them and demand they fix the problem of publishing. They came here.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @LucyAllenFWR and
Again and again. I tried hard to explain. I NEVER intended to attack Chris.
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